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Marshal

🕑 Added 2017-12-01 06:09:28 +0000 UTC

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Joe Garvey

Is this being looked at again any time soon? It's a great class and I'd love to see more. Particularly more banner options, including a magical variant.

Kristopher R. Hunter

That's probably a good idea. I'm planning on trying it out the next time I get an opportunity. I'll post my experiences with the concept. I love the flavor of it.

Mage Hand Press

As much of a great idea as that is, I'm probably not going to put the Marshal into Dark Matter's character options. The reason being: I want to make sure that it's completely, totally final before including it, and it just needs more playtest time to make sure that's the case.

Kristopher R. Hunter

You know, I feel like this would be an awesome class to have a Dark Matter variant. Complete with a disposable Red Shirt companion :)

Mage Hand Press

Oh boy, we've got a lot of ideas, but I don't wanna say too many, for fear of not getting them finished. I'd love to do a zombie cohort (for necromancer dudes), a mage cohort, a priest cohort, a templar cohort. We've got a few ideas for banners as well.

Matthew Atkins

I really like this! I finally got around to reading it, and I can't wait to see the other banners, and possibly cohorts, that y'all come up with next! Is anything planned as of right now?

Mage Hand Press

Both of these are mistakes: these features happen at 2nd level. As it happens, the Cohort feature originally happened at 3rd level, but it was moved back to 2nd fairly late, so I missed some references to the old level.

LastLifeTwo

Also in the 'True Loyality' feature, it says "In addition, at 3rd, 6th, 10th, 14th, and 20th levels, your cohort gains new abilities based on its archetype", but all of the archetypes for Cohorts get a bonus at 2nd level, not 3rd, so is that a mistake as well, or is the mistake in the Cohort statblocks?

LastLifeTwo

For the 'True Loyalty' feature, it says "For each level you gain after 3rd", is this meant to be 2nd level, since that's when you gain the feature?

Daelbeth

Thank you for clarifying!

Mage Hand Press

If anything, I may just handle dvati through a sidebar or something, because I'd like to outline that race as one that you can play both roles, master and cohort, rather than letting you play three creatures at once.

Kura Tenshi

Been watching too much FATE. This seems like FATE. :thinking: ... not FATE.

LeBallisticPoet

I think it turned out really good! I can’t wait to see all the cohorts and Banners you have planned whenever the Complete class rolls around. I think you balanced it out really well with the action economy and all. Also I can’t help but think it would be hilarious to play a Devati Marshal 😂 the chaos of having three characters would be hilarious.

Daniel Lamoureux

thanks! all good now

Mage Hand Press

Okay, it's up again. Patreon's attachments system has been giving us problems all day.

Mage Hand Press

Lemme try to get it back up. Patreon is being awful weird about uploads today

Daniel Lamoureux

where is the download? I can't find it

Mage Hand Press

Oh, good catch! The berserker relentless should be once/long. I'll fix that ASAP. I'm glad you're digging this class. It was a huge challenge to make a class that lets you play two characters at once, but I super happy with the way it turned out.

LeBallisticPoet

Okay awesome! The magic items thing makes sense and I was 90% sure about the feats but wanted to make sure. I figured not since it was a similar situation to the Ranger Beast Master

LeBallisticPoet

Also Relentless on the Beserker Cohort doesn’t have any limitations on how many times it can be used.. I’m really digging this class though. I’m envisioning some sort of Marshal/Warden multiclass in My future.

Jaron Mortimer

Cohorts cannot get feats. You can, because you get the ASI class feature, but the Cohort only gains a stat increase when you get that feature. As far as magic items go, they can attune three items just like any other character. Magic Items are an inherently DM limited option, so it's up to them if they want to give you enough good stuff so you can give one to your cohort.

Jaron Mortimer

A Divine themed banner (Cross, or Symbol, or something) is absolutely a thing we want to do.

Jaron Mortimer

It's been a long haul. The Marshal should play pretty well, and we all really like the idea of the Cohort just being a big part of the class.

LeBallisticPoet

Couple questions. Can your cohort use an item attuned to you? (I’m assuming they can’t attunement themselves because balance) Second question is when you and your cohort get ASIs can they get feats instead (I’m figuring it’s a no but wanted to make sure I’m reading it right)

Corey Heward

Looking forward to a revamp of that banner, cause I want to make my viking chief with a horde of einherjar

Mage Hand Press

The changes that we made to the way all the banners work basically made the dragon banner incompatible. Plus, we only like to release classes with 2 archetypes, if we can get away with it, since it makes playtesting and refinement easier.

Mage Hand Press

The recharge on initiative rolls is totally intended. We limited the number of battle dice to the bare minimum, so you have this always available, but very shallow, pool of dice. It makes the short or long rest clause a little redundant, but that's to ensure DMs don't restrict it to only combat situations.

Mage Hand Press

I've been running into technical problems with my PDF maker -- let's see if I can get the changes to stick this time...

Mage Hand Press

Damn! I'll fix that right away -- it's a weird bug I was encountering that kept messing with the levels on the stat blocks.

Mage Hand Press

We've got cohorts in mind to cover most of the classes, but I'm not going to promise we do all of them. Ultimately, I want all the cohorts to play differently, so it doesn't make sense to do two full arcane casters, for example.

The Nails of Vecna

I'm sure we can do a healing banner. We already have plenty of other ideas for more (including the dragon banner Corey asked about below), but we figured we'd save them for later release.

The Nails of Vecna

I believe the intention is that the Marshal can use battle dice in every battle. Kind of like encounter powers in 4e.

The Nails of Vecna

The word 'die' is always missing from the Marshal, because he never says die. :P

The Nails of Vecna

That's actually a typo. Stalkers just really like sneks. It's like their spirit animal!

Corey Heward

What happened to the dragon banner?

Alexander Garcia

Now you gotta make a subclass for dark matter. Somewhere between zapp brannigan and admiral thrall.

Jackie syver

Downloaded it a few minutes ago and the banner ability is still missing, I know someone else pointed it out before but I thought I would mention it again. Also kinda sad there's no medic banner. Any possibility of seeing one in the future? I feel like a martial non spellcaster healer would be a fun alternative should a party need a healer but no one wants one of the spellcasting healers (which between your classes and arch types and alot of wizards unearthed arcana spellcasting healers are decently covered) because right now the only martial healer that I've really found that can stand on its own as the parties healer is the monk way of tranquility from unearthed arcana. Sure you guys have the corps man but I feel like that works more as a backup healer. This class could be a chance at a martial main healer through an archtypes.

Daelbeth

In 'War Tactics', it mentions: You begin with 2 battle dice, and regain all expended battle dice when you take a short or long rest, or when you roll initiative. Is the recharge on initiative rolls intended? It seems very strong, and makes the short/long rest recharge somewhat unnecessary.

Astrid Rigby

I really love the class, but the Hunter's stats seem off; it gets spellcasting at level 21?

Medieval Ram

sorry, i was reading this at 4 am, it is on the true loyalty ^^

Christopher Schroeder

Third Level War Tactics' "Brace" is missing the word "die" in the second use of "battle die"

Richard Ascencio

Awesome. Been following this since the Buried Treasure Warlord. Good stuff guys keep it coming!

Levi Andringa

Do you guys plan on making cohorts for every class feel? I'm loving it so far, though. Might make it for the next campaign.

Joseph Blanc

The Stalker has proficiency in "Sneak" instead of Stealth

Mage Hand Press

No, your cohort's statistics and abilities are only determined by your marshal level.

Matthew Elliott

what about multiclassing, does the Cohort still get a hit die if you multiclass into another class for that level?

Mage Hand Press

We have a long list of cohorts we'd like to tackle in the future, but we'd figure we's stop after 4 for now to facilitate playtesting and stuff. I like "Abbot". Might use that

James Klein

cool i figured id ask for a clarification, the only other thing i think could be a cool addition later would be a abbot (cleric/paladin or monk) cohort for a sort of religious council cohort

Mage Hand Press

Like other NPCs, you just kind of talk about their race using airquotes. However, if you can talk your DM into it, on page 282 the DMG has a table to modify NPCs with racial features.