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Chapter 32: The Half-Wit Ponce

🕑 Added 2024-05-17 14:18:40 +0000 UTC

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Rivo

Yeah. I've seen multiple comments about Bas going for an Oscar, replacing previous Oscar winners over on QQ. But I'm more interested in the runner ups awards wise and what Bas can do to change history in that regard. Stepping back from awards, an example of a mediocre film, box office wise, that I would have loved if it became something more would be John Carter. Unfortunately, that film was made to fail intentionally, as a way to oust the Disney CEO at the time. Also, 2012 release date, would probably not line up for Bas' schedule.

Rivo

It's a tough one. It would be a people pleaser for sure, a lot of readers really want to see it... But apart from Sean Bean, they really went to the effort of not casting anyone who had a name before the show started, didn't they? I'm sure there are a few names here and there you could mention as being famous, but I just can't think of anyone as big as Bas being cast in GoT. Honestly, I think you should save Bas being the GoT franchise for House of the Dragon or Dunk and Egg. He might make for a better Daemon Targaryen than Matt Smith, who's pretty good in the role. But idk, there's just something missing for me that maybe Bas can fill.

blackshadow111

People only forget it because it was crap though. If he makes it good he runs the risk of being memorable enough to get into trouble due to it.

David Karlsson

You mean I bought Disney+ for nothing?

Bar Calak

I love a good one and done romcom too.

Bar Calak

GoT is still possible, though for one of two unusual characters. I'm still undecided on this tbh.

Bar Calak

I'm tapping my nose at you just fyi. Though Bas has a thing for older ladies one like he won't cross is the marital one. I think that'd ruin his character.

Bar Calak

I wish.

Bar Calak

The kids will come around. No biggie. Bas has just done the equivalent of calling his teacher mommy in front of the whole class. They'll get over it. And Bas always finds a way to come out on top!

Bar Calak

Forget honesty. Duck and cover is the best policy. Agreed.

Bar Calak

Controversy imo exist mostly on social media. At the end of the day the numbers will always speak louder than the complaints. That said - yea Bas is going to have a headache dealing with certain people in his life lol

Bar Calak

Speculate away I live for it!

Bar Calak

The underlying property of PoP was solid, it's just that Mike Newell and Disney having their fingers on it makes it an impossible fix. Sometimes it's better to cut your losses. Full agreement on a movie only needing to be fun - that's the whole point of entertainment. There are better movies out there for Bas to enjoy being a part of.

Bar Calak

Maybe... Maybe not.

Bar Calak

Yes I've had a bit of a meanstreak with the last few chapters I must admit. Won't apologize though, I like seeing the BP go up haha. Fight or flight is a natural response Imo but hopefully the counterattack feels more like Bas. Better movies out there. I know some people go back and watch the movies I mention. I don't want to subject people to the really bad ones haha.

Bar Calak

They've all been in the biz so long they've both seen and been divas. Rickman just wants to ensure Bas doesn't make it a habit.

Bar Calak

There are more flops that Bas can better. Defo something he's going to be doing a lot of in the future. Meeting Gemma again was super tempting though.

Bar Calak

That's the Mike Newell effect.

Bar Calak

Better to nip that in the bud asap then

Bar Calak

Mike Newell would only be a detriment to Bas' career. Yuck lol

Bar Calak

Could be. Not Bas' problem though haha

Bar Calak

There's be better ops to cemeting himself as a full fledged action star. That said I'm also more familiar with AC - the games. Though I haven't played since odyssey and don't plan on it either.

Bar Calak

Eventually Bas has go to be part of a lacklustre project. It's only inevitable. Has happened to every actor ever Bas shouldn't be the exception.

Bar Calak

Don't wonder too hard now, better things to think about haha

Bar Calak

Yea I didnt even realize how close the names were while writing in my head Helena isn't even her name it's HBC lol

Bar Calak

On love actually and TT he was basically taking advantage of his trained acrobatics not actual free running. The parkour craze of the 2010s was a bit more involved than that.

Bar Calak

Turning box office bombs ar at least mediocre performers into actually successful films is sort of the plan. And while reuniting with Gemma is extremely tempting, there are more things Bas can do than sell his sould to Disney this early.

Bar Calak

Don't laugh too hard now lol

Bar Calak

Doing a nice cage movie is just poking the beehive tbh haha

Bar Calak

I think most people forget that Jake Gyllenhaal was even in that movie not to mention the other heavy hitters. Even if Bas went for it he'd be fine. If lol.

Bar Calak

Prince of Persia. The failed successor to Pirates

Bar Calak

Hopefully no one bought a ticket to that movie lol

TheMackAttack

You seem set on Prince of Persia, but I don’t see how to save that movie and if you did the plan was for it to be a series and honestly Bas probably needs some time away from those. When was 17 Again filmed? He could agree to that movie as part of the compromise to get HP back on track.

David Karlsson

While doing 3 projects simultaneously would be a bit much long term, establishing his career just after Potter will be important. Emma and Daniel fell off the radar after it ended and haven't really got the same level of fame since. High profile projects will be important then to be considered for roles after the Harry potter craze winds down a bit. But you're right he could do other things as he'll probably not have jobs all year. Writing a biography, or the start of one with more or less the premise of this story could be good. Then release the book when his Hollywood prospects dwindle a bit. It will probably be far enough in the future that he can include some of the scandals from the first few years safely, like his broken wrist

Matt

Or instead of writing if he continues acting (could have him write the movie Drive or Faster for example) limit his projects to 1 project a year or every other…would show his fans he’s still active but could post a YouTube video or a tweet that he doesn’t want to burn himself out with having to fly all over the place and potentially disappoint his fans with his performances not being up to their expectations

Matt

Considering the payday he would get in 2010 for doing those movies…I think it would be smart because could have him do so many projects that year and then give him after that year of hell shift to either writing, business, or both given that he’d be rich AF from shorting the housing market too

McLuvin

We’ve talked on the QQ thread about Bas taking a Game of Thrones role. People (including myself) brought up Robb Stark as a potential role, he’d be able to do it and Deathly Hallows Part 2, as well as Fast 5 as long as he’s willing to work himself to near death in 2010…and as Robb he’d be one of the early shows favourite characters and have the most memorable death scene that lets him out of the show within 3 years of it airing. Long before the season 5 decline started.

Soh•M©

That'd be a long commitment.

David Karlsson

September 2008, Halfblood prince finished filming in mid May earlier that year. Problem is, producers D&D refused to give up any creative control of the project at all. And for all the criticism they rightfully earned later on, adapting a TV show of this scale is very difficult and time consuming. They may be needed to get the project off to a successful start. Later when they get such high praise it will be all but impossible to convince them of script changes. They sort of bought into their own legend, didn't seem to consult George as much and just wanted to move on to the next Star wars project. There were a lot of people trying to take over the project, trying to prolong it by a few seasons, hire more writers etc etc. What can MC really do? He's also still tied up with the last HP movie and promotion of half blood Prince

Matt

Would also be cool if MC kept track of where GOT is in terms of production, could potentially have him audition for Jon Snow and have another huge blockbuster under his belt

Matt

Working with Disney essentially means collaboration to destroy a franchise since just about everything they touch turns to shit

Matt

The whole overextension of PC is also why everyone saw an unironic rise in dissident political thoughts

Anonimacho

It's because of things like that that all Latinos hate progressives. On the one hand they want to cancel a white actor for playing the role of a tan guy at best, if you saw the PoP games. But if you complain about a black Samurai, you're a racist. Simply unbearable. Bas better be honest. Since he will be supported by the majority of fans. Who are for the most part, normal people.

Rivo

Intrigued to see if Bas is actually going to do Prince of Persia, or it's just going to be used to get WB to accept his demands script wise. Prince of Persia is going to need a new director and a new script. Something I thought Bas would start dabbling in after the final HP movie. Not to mention better casting, from what I remember and read just now, a lot of the actors were pretty flat. Also interesting to see who is still cordial with Bas and who isn't. Looks like, bar Emma and Rupert, the younger cast are somewhat shunning him? Whereas the older cast, are sympathetic to an extent. I do remember Daniel Radcliffe having a massive crush on Helena Bonham Cater, even mentioning something along the lines of wishing he was older...

Rivo

I disagree, any acknowledgment of wrong doing or whatever, or even just responding to accusations is a bad idea. The best thing to do, is just not engage whatsoever. It works.

Rivo

All the work he's done would be gone if he did Sorcerer's Apprentice. It'd be a pretty pathetic move by Bas tbh.

David Karlsson

Fortunately, Bas has his whole life to prepare a response to such accusations and scenarios. Emma's "HeForShe" campaign will be controversial of course. JKs twitter revisionism and women's spaces rants. Blackface in tropic thunder or appropriation for his costumes etc. Apologising doesn't seem to work, especially when it isn't done fast enough. Plus if he didn't intend to offend or to hurt people it's a bad idea to apologise, anyway. So a prompt unapologetic response to give context but deny them a chance to take him out of context is best I think. Tbf in this movies case I don't know what's even controversial, But still.

N

A lot can be said about whitewashing, but let’s just focus on its impact on Bas in the story. He’s someone from the future who knows at some point things will get loud. Does he really want to become the poster child for cultural appropriation and whitewashing when those conversations start getting heated in a few years? It likely wouldn’t harm his career even if it does get him some hate, but some of his associations and business choices will cause a lot of stir in the future, so again, would it be worth it? Ultimately, it’s the author’s choice and story, but it’s still fun to speculate.

David Karlsson

Not necessarily, they could spin it as an on set crush or friendly flirting. He's known for flirting with a lot of women, so unless there's any compromising photos/videos, Emma or the 2 talk it would sound more realistic to the public if she turned him down until he's 18. He's lucky in a way, from that PHO chapter the fanbase seems to get a lot of rumours about all kinds of women and girls who have a crush on bas or are reportedly close to him. But with no evidence about any of them it becomes even more easy to dismiss all of them, and then tack on his young age to have them all sound ridiculous right off the bat. Even Rupert dismissed the idea, and he was on set and saw how close they were for months

David Karlsson

If they initially tried to make it a franchise, would MCs contract require him to come back for promotional obligations or further films, realistically?

David Karlsson

Missed the confrontation too. Cruise seems to have some stakes in this project since he vouched for Bas inclusion. First definitive main role in an action movie doing his own stunts, thanks to Cruise. If it succeeds he'll be tied to Bas and it could be good PR for Cruise at that point, he was still a bit controversial around then. So Cruises influence, and investment maybe, Bas's hindsight on the flaws, good chemistry with Gemma and the momentum of his fame after HbP premiere? Might swing things enough that it becomes viable to franchise or make a sequel. Disney might want to widen the schism between Bas and WB, maybe that gives MC more leverage with the script? They'll still be pretty desperate for their franchise at that point, before Iron-man and marvel is more established. Poaching Bas could help, no idea whether MCs role or contract for PoP will be a recurring one. Disney can sometimes be trusted not to fuck up the 2, occasionally 3 first movies. Secure salary and networking opportunity, plus it would help Gemma get off to a less rocky start in the industry. Her OtL filmography is pretty gnarly. BDSM horror and all kinds of stuff

JAR1

The movie is problematic though. And it won't do Gemma any good to romantically linked to Bas. It'll give credence to rumours of their tryst whilst he was a minor.

David Karlsson

MC will be 18 this time. Good Times ahead.

JAR1

So we'll have a reunion with Gemma in Prince of Persia?

David Karlsson

Hope JK and Heyman reimburse him for this somehow later. The movie might become better, if they put all the excess scenes in the DVD version. But Bas's reputation is already suffering, even the cast who he is on pretty good terms with treat him like a leper. And another thing, they will talk to their friends or family about this inevitably. HBC's husband who is a big producer will have his view of MC coloured by what she relays to him here, Even if it's explained later. So the cast got a bonus for their suffering in the last chapter. What does Bas get? A bloody big commendation for his dedication to the franchise and excellence, at the very least to wash away his fraying reputation? I hope it works out somehow

RaGNORAK

I have no idea what everyone is talking about with POP, I liked that movie. But tbf, I just like anything that's related to sands of time, which is my all time favourite game. Who cares if it's a little whitewashing? I am from South Asia and I'd rather they make a fun movie than worry about stuff like that.

N

Prince of Persia is noted as one of the worst examples of whitewashing in Hollywood even to this day. Even if he could fix the other flaws with the film, will it be worth it?

Pope Yoda I

Cutting away from the cliff hanger at the end of the previous chapter was mean :(. That said, I'm surprised to see survival instincts peaking through in MCs psyche, instead of just an improved ability to dodge. God knows he's got enough practice dodging the backs of peoples' hands by now. No idea if you plan to remix the old PoP movie, though I feel like it's too far away from the current timeline to be a possibility and I'm definitely not enough of a movie buff to guess without embarrassing myself.

Stubbzy

Really cool to see the adult actors perspective on the situation! HBP production is proving to be a very stark contrast when compared to OOTP, intrigued to see where all of It goes and how the film will end up Everyone seems confident the movie hinted is Prince of Persia, know nothing about it except it was game I heard about years ago but excited to see Bas get another acting role! PARKOUR!

Stubbzy

Honestly kinda curious to see how Bas tackles a movie that he knows was a flop in OTL. Like obviously their are garbage movies he should stay away from but their are definitely a lot that if they were tweaked, with hindsight in mind, which he has, they could’ve been great. He’s yet to lead an physical action movie and he has chemistry with Arterton as a bonus

Stubbzy

He also used some in Tropic Thunder but I’m guessing it’s for more intense parkour moves

Stubbzy

If he turns it around could be first proper step into becoming an lead action star and later potentially other video game movies although I’ll admit I haven’t seen the movie, and never played the games unfortunately so idk what it’s even really about. Was more into assassins creed

TheodoreLucifer

I hope it’s not prince of persia… that movie is just so bad…

David Karlsson

The tricky thing is if they continue with both parts of the script, they could end up with a frankenstein cut at the end. And who knows which will be the cinematic version?

David Karlsson

Shame about Karen Gillan. The rizz will have to wait

Kieran M

Thank you

David Karlsson

Seems MC will meet producer Mike Newell at long last? Kept away from ruining GoF.

David Karlsson

Hopefully WB change their mind, MC fixes HbP, when filming starts for SA/PoP Heyman is back in charge and smoothed things over with everyone. PoP start filming after OTL half blood prince is finished so by the time he starts with Disney things could be better

Soh•M©

With few changes Prince of Persia could become a good movie

Pontus

Ahh i read wrong, nearly the same name :)

David Karlsson

A lot of flaws with this one. Have to work with Disney, too. Wonder if it can be fixed?

David Karlsson

Typecast isn't as big of a worry now with tokyo drift and tropic thunder, and depending on how popular his cameos were. But still see your point. Is apprentice just 1 movie?

Anonimacho

Mmmm, if you're talking about prince of percia, that sounds like a bad idea to me. Someone else already mentioned that it was a box office flop. But given Bas's current situation, it would be hard to improve it. Our guy runs the risk of being known as a troubled actor.

David Karlsson

But not Helen, playing narcissa. Unless they met at quidditch world Cup. But we didn't see that scene either

David Karlsson

Hmm I wonder what the next movie is? A lot of parkour?

Pontus

Has bas not met helena in order of the phoenix?

Rhyalys

Thanks for the chapter! Doesn’t he already know parkour though? I remember him using it in the Love Actually airport scene

McLuvin

Prince of Persia I think? If so…mmm. Well it was criticised for departing from the games, criticised for white washing and criticised for mediocre acting outside of a few actors like Arterton and Molina. However it would let him act alongside Gemma again (something that would probably end in copious and constant amounts of sex) and there was some potential to the movie, as reassessments lately note it was a fun film. Even if Disney was way too desperate to make it into a franchise. Just don’t forget, it was a box office bomb. Losing at minimum nearly 50 million. Be careful.

Vayes

Bas getting a role in Sorcerer's Apprentice would be HILARIOUS!!! But Prince of Persia would be a fine choice too!!! Looking forward for more chaps!

blackshadow111

Hm... Sorcerer's Apprentice and Prince of Persia are both around the corner, and Bas would fit perfectly in SA. But PoP has the bigger brand value... OTOH, playing Dastan comes with a risk of being retroactively cancelled a decade later for appropriation... Honestly, Harry Potter going on to play the Sorcerer's Apprentice would have a serious risk of getting Typecast as the 'magic guy'. PoP would be better.

GetRektNuub

Which movie is this? Jerry, is it Prince of Persia? That's the only one I can think of that had Parkour.

Catherine Colin

Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time

Catherine Colin

Oh wait nevermind just did a google search

Catherine Colin

I cant remember what movie that was. Parkour and jerry brookhiemer. Hmm


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