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Brotherhood tier is kind of pointless right now
🕑 Added 2022-08-02 00:06:47 +0000 UTCGod I hate the new Patreon layout... Anyway, Brotherhood tier is pointless because nobody does the story collab stuff and even the handful of people who did do it produced results that were more often than not incredibly bad and I completely lost motivation to do collab stuff.
If you were already charged for this month and you want a refund, I can do that. Otherwise you're just giving me more money for no reason, which is fine if you wanna do that, but I'm not going to force it.
I wanted to still have a way of allowing people to input story ideas but attaching a monetary price on it implies I am obligated to do it, and to be perfectly blunt, some of the suggestions I get are complete shit and I have zero desire to write for them no matter how much money you throw at me because it makes the story objectively worse. Like no I'm not going to suddenly move the whole story focus so Diana can UB your personal OC or whatever. No I'm not introducing a new emo radstag centaur herm. No I'm not letting your magical furry fox make a cameo in the story. And no, once and for all, there is no god damn reforming--not even cloning. No, no, no, and once again no.
Not all of them were this horrible, but these are some of the extreme examples.
tl;dr the collaboration perk has been scrapped because a lot of suggestions were shit and I don't think it's fair to charge money when I refuse to make bad additions to the story
I'm sorry this sounds super callous. It's not directed at anyone in particular. All of the people currently still in the Brotherhood tier are not the same people who gave me such horrific demands. The people who were already took their money and left and I don't care. Even still, the remaining Brotherhood tier people either haven't made use of this tier's perks, or they have, and I had to reject their ideas anyway because they just didn't fit in well. Therefore, I just don't see the point anymore.
Now I haven't unpublished Brotherhood tier (yet) but I want feedback on what you want to see from it instead. I'm not opposed to collabing, but I don't want to stick a price tag on that, and I already do suggestions in the #VIP channel which is available at a lower tier (Minuteman). So now what?
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Aces
I did attempt to compile a hard no list but I've found that my list of "hard no" is far more extensive than in normal RP. I could try to rework it to be like "I'll add a character of your design into the story" though. I'd be limited by a lot of story elements but that might also work. Possibly work out some rough guidelines like what kind of vore they want the character to be involved in.
Duskblade
To be honest I just enjoy your writing but agree that it would be helpful to have a list of hard no that you will not work with. That way anyone who wants to collaborate knows what they can't suggest.
Ryx
So, I won't lie, I'm not sure there's a good suggestion for the 90$ tier that doesn't share problems that you had with the previous setup. If they can't color within the sensible boundaries as it is, then that eliminates most attempts at creative collaboration on a smaller scale as well. So with no actual content that hasn't already been released to them, and no way to guarantee that people would put actual thought into their efforts to be a part of the world, there really isn't something, as of this moment, to work with. That said, this summary does give a measure of direction on how things have to be directed in order to make this work. Either a further division of work release by tier, which would probably be considered unfair by folks. An increase in the of works to eliminate the previous problem, which would be hard given the raw financial burdens already present. Or maybe developing a more rigid framework for collaborative efforts. A 'hard no' list to start with, aka, things that will result in an automatic rejection without exception. And perhaps, rather than collaborating on stories, limit it to characters? They can work with you to design a character who fits in universe, hash out a reasonable personality, including a 'why' they feel the way they do on certain things. Your average wastelander isn't going to know what vore is and be totally cool with being eaten, after all. Then, only if the character meets the minimum standard is there a 'chance' that said character will be brought into the story when the opportunity arises? But on the opposite side, that does feel like it's not quite enough. But maybe some people would be cool with it? Just my thoughts on the matter. As a final note, the reason I have been all the way up at this tier is entirely because I feel like helping you reach your goal and it's something I can afford to do, so it's not like I feel like I need to be compensated for it. Other people have their own wants and circumstances, but if you legitimately can't think of anything that this tier is worth, maybe just mark it as a tier to toss extra money at you out of a desire to see the project continue.
