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Book II/Chapter 16: The Road to Thebes

🕑 Added 2025-06-09 21:41:10 +0000 UTC
Book II/Chapter 16: The Road to Thebes

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RENAISSANSE SI

Oh such a great catch! You're absolutely right. That line definitely tiptoes into heretical territory for the time. I appreciate you flagging it. Jean’s enthusiasm got away from me there a bit, I meant it more as a glimpse of where things might go eventually, not as a formal position Burgundy’s taking in 1434. I’ll likely tweak the wording in a future pass to make it more era-appropriate while keeping the subtext alive. Love the way you're thinking about the Burgundian inheritance too, you’re not far off from where some threads are heading!

Wen L.

I agree with you, there are a few angles being played. Jean's unique use of language hints at some underlying differences between the Burgundian camp and Papacy at the very least. Historical changes are going to pile up. Hungarians are probably the purest with deeper roots to engage in war against the Ottoman Empire due to their geopolitical situation.

RENAISSANSE SI

Thank you as always!

RENAISSANSE SI

I actually thought about including the Chinese block printing connection early on, but in the end it didn’t feel plausible or organic within the story’s framework.

RENAISSANSE SI

Haha, yes, they do tend to snowball, don’t they? One move leads to another, and before you know it, everyone’s either planning a crusade or printing slogans. Buckle up, there’s more ahead!

Max Müller

Well things are being put in motion you are really leading us from cliff to cliff :)

N O

This is somewhat confusing to me as well - I thought he was in his late 20’s because historically he was born in 1405. But he was described last chapter as having strands of silver in his beard so I don’t know.

ThePolarParadox

How old is Constantine now? Iirc he should be in his 30s, yeah?

Gabriel Melnik

A good excuse for how he came up with the printing press could be the inspiration from Chinese printing block.

Hugo23

The Burgundians, Venetians and the Papacy all have too clear of a side angle on any deal made, especially in regards to marriage. They've overplayed their hand in my opinion, Especially with Constantine leaning on the fact with how young Agnes is in comparison to himself. He has no idea what deals Burgundy made with the Papacy to get them to push for it, or if their is a deal or a true matter of faith. They are treating him as uninformed of the reality of the West, when he is very aware of the fact that they are not a monolith. I do wonder if one of German Princes or one of the factions of the 100 years war will take advantage. Sigismund at least has somewhat pure motives (as pure as any ruler does) and is probably the only person who isn't interested in seizing Thessaloniki or using Constantine in a personal war. Which isn't to say he doesn't have his own angles, merely that his actions recognize the realities of his own and Constantine's position. The Burgundians and the Pope really seem to be drinking their own kool aid as it were. I also had the thought about the some 2000 german's and freebooters answered the call (essentially actual crusaders not called by oaths or getting paid for it). They are possibly the perfect people to deposit at the gates of strongholds and towns that refuse to surrender. Strong enough and intimidating enough that those invested aren't going to make the attempt. Weak enough that they can't really make trouble for the locals as long as they are supplied. Not to mention as they don't have a real tie to any of the other powers funding/pushing for the crusade. Easy recruits and easily rewarded, especially if their willing to convert.

Elaine

good chappie

Wen L.

"the Word of God printed in his own tongue" - Just a note, what Jean said to Constantine here is heresy against the Catholic Church. Under the Council of Tarragona in 1234, vernacular versions of the Bible are forbidden by the order of the Church, only Latin version is allowed. It's one of the factors within the wider Protestant Reformation later. Are you hinting at Jean II de Croy and Phillip's bent towards radical divergence from the Catholic authority? It's a small throwaway line, but contemporaries of this era would know it's heretical value. This can get really interesting later. By the way, If Constantine does pick up a Burgundian wife tied to Phillip's family, you could play out the Burgundian Inheritance early (have Philip the Good die without Charle the Bold as his heir in battle due to the lingering issues of the Hundred Years' War, just as Charles the Bold in our timeline didn't have any heirs) that the House of Habsburg (Future Austro-Hungarian Empire/Spanish Empire) would do in 1477 through the marriage of Mary of Burgundy and Maximilian of Habsburg. A Byzantine Empire with control over the Netherlands, you can easily achieve your goal of sending ships to the New World and extracting resources from the Americas before the Spanish. Bonus, Constantine can rebuild New York (formerly Dutch New Amsterdam) as something like New Constantinople or something.

russell marsh

It's seems are boy has dodged a bullet for now, remember at the end of the day the other leaders are still politicians even in these late medieval times. When there not kissing babies there stealing there lollipops.

RENAISSANSE SI

Glad to hear you're feeling the tension! The Crusade will be epic, but it needs the proper build-up.

Stapet

Once again we are anxiously waiting for the development of the story


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