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Book II / Chapter 39: Is tin polin

🕑 Added 2025-08-29 01:52:20 +0000 UTC
Book II / Chapter 39: Is tin polin

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RENAISSANSE SI

That’s a sharp read, paranoia eating Demetrios from the inside will absolutely be part of his arc. And you’re right, the Church isn’t monolithic either; the anti-union faction is strong, but Constantine’s victories are slowly making him more acceptable. You’ll definitely see more of that play out in future chapters.

RENAISSANSE SI

Me too! Plenty in Constantinople felt the same way, and that anger is only going to sharpen against Demetrios.

RENAISSANSE SI

Haha, Demetrios might want to keep a spare pair close at hand right about now…

RENAISSANSE SI

Yeah, I actually thought about that angle, Demetrios trying to cut a deal directly with Constantine, but it just didn’t feel true to him. Too much pride, too much blood on his hands, and his whole anti-unionist stance makes it a bridge he’d never cross.

RENAISSANSE SI

Exactly, the Ottoman situation is far from ideal right now. Constantine will have some breathing room for sure.

RENAISSANSE SI

That’s a fair take! Early on Constantine has been more reactive, but as the story moves forward, you’ll see him push into the political game more deliberately. He’s learning when to strike first, not just when to answer.

RENAISSANSE SI

You’ve summed it up pretty well, Demetrios really doesn’t have many good cards to play. Pride and desperation can still make a man dangerous though, so we’ll see what he reaches for when the walls start closing in.

RENAISSANSE SI

Thank you!

Wen L.

If I were Demetrios, I'd be afraid of betrayal from my own people and paranoia is going to play a big role. A lot of Byzantine Emperors, like Romans before, were afraid of assassination after usurping power from their relatives. Eventually, they overplay their hands and create self-fulfilling prophecies of their own making, i.e. Emperor Valentinian was afraid of General Flavius Aetius, had him killed, but men loyal to Aetius murdered Valentinian. Paranoia should be playedup for Demetrios, if he begins arresting random people and the story of Constantine's benevlolence/victory grows, the people of Constantinople might openly begin to conspire for his death like emperors before. Additionally, the Eastern Orthodox Church is no a monolith like Papal Rome, the Patriarch should also face some pressure from the Synod, the Eastern Orthodox Council, to act against Demetrius and offer a compromise to victorious Constantine. They may not want to join the Latin Church, but they are even more anti-Islam, an alien religion outside the teachings of Christ and God. We haven't seen a Synod meeting yet to show a break between the loyalists and compromisers within. I advise an ecclestiastical meeting especially after Constantine's victory indicating divine favor and cracks for some Bishops to begin rebelling against central authority of Demetrios.

Davada

Agreed something like what happened in Athens were Constantine was able to get the local Greeks to kill the Duke of Athens for him

fosfato

Don't believe Genoa would want to lose commercial and possible military relations with Constantine.

Andy Worcester

Perhaps he could make a deal with Genoa, seeing as Constantine is "in bed" with Venice now.

Elaine

good chappie

Sir Baka

Yeahhh… I don’t consider myself a historian or a tactician by any means, but Demetrios here… he’s honestly screwed. Completely and utterly so. In our timeline, by the time that Constantinople fell, it had a population of 50k iirc, to defend a city that once held ten times that number. In here, Demetrios is in an even worse position, because: - Demetrios is already an unpopular ruler. He conspired with the Ottomans and commited fatricide to claim the throne. While Constantine might be a pariah for selling the Orthodox to the Catholics, that cant be much better than selling it to the Ottomans. I strongly believe it’ll be even worse, much worse. - The City of Constantinople will be fighting not united against Ottomans, but will be divided many times over in many camps. Not a last stand for Christendom, because your fighting against your fellow Christians, and your ruler is a puppet of the Turks. Not a last stand for the Byzantines, because Constantine has just as much if not a far superior claim to the same throne, and has had tangible, real results. Not even a last stand for Constantinople, because there’s a very high chance that he’ll be considered a liberator, because I cannot stress this enough, Demetrios is a traitor who stabbed his brother and seized control of the crown in an Ottoman plot. - The one reason he had became the next Emperor, his Ottoman Backer, is now defeated and fractured, and in a succession crisis if not outright civil war. He shouldn’t be expecting reinforcements anytime soon, if at all, if he backs the wrong successor, or the next one views Constantinople as a lost cause. - Economically, his city is no doubt in shambles. Merchants will read the writing on the wall and decrease investments. Compared to forming relations and securing deals to the Roman Empire that is now well and truly emerging once again into prominence, Constantinople is a fool’s choice. Especially when after the war, there will be a post war boom that Demetrios will most assuredly not be enjoying. - Militarily, yeah, lmao fat chance. No unity in the city, Ieros Skopos is spreading, no Ottoman reinforcements for the forseeable future, and this modern army of gunpowder will be far greater suited to laying siege, especially to walls that were built half a millennia prior. - Not much of a grounds to stand on in religion. He can hem and haw all he want about Constantine selling out to the Vatican but he sold out as well, no matter how he may frame it. Probably said this several times already but just hammering it home. - Diplomatically… in what world would you want to make an enemy of Constantine at this point, when he practically has the entirety of Europe at his back? So… yeah Demetrios is screwed. Even if he attempts to ride out to take advantage of the Ottoman Situation, and claim a bunch of land, do what Constantine had did in Morea, it’ll all be lost to his brother dearest in the future anyways. At this point… two options that the others mentioned. Take the money and run. Orrr… plead for mercy, sue for peace and abdicate. Except his pride probably wouldn’t allow it… so er… if he’s desperate enough, maybe send a bunch of assassins..? Actually, is the Hassan-i-Sabbath still around? Probably not, but they’re pretty cool…

Flygar

Hoping to see a more active Constantine when it comes to politics, he still feels very reactive to schemes instead of proactive.

Max Müller

Well i thinks this shows that the Ottomans are going to have to spend the next few years to putting out fires all over their empire, whiel constantine can prepare "in peace" for his next campaign. I wounder if Constantine might try to take the islands that Demetrios controls in the Aegean.

Mineseikea

Hope the people overthrows Demetrios and Constantine fucks over the ottomans with releasing Orhan.

Mineseikea

Run where? The Turks that will se him as a traitor abandoning the his allies or the west where they think of him as a heretic and kinslayer. He has nowhere to run unless he decides to sail across the Atlantic and find America.

N O

Honestly the best thing to do here is the one thing Demetrios simply would never consider because of his pride - instead of reaching out to the Turks, reach out to Constantine. Offer to abdicate in exchange for comfortable exile on a nice Mediterranean island. Napoleon style. Leverage the peaceful transfer of power and blood ties as the biggest factor, and I think Constantine would go for it.

pls don't ban me

someone is looking for his brown pants and it's not Constantine or the house of Osman

Pearl of the Orient

I'd never be in this situation because I would have died before bowing the sons of Muhammad

Anonykor

Yeah, I would get the fuck out of there lol

russell marsh

I would take as much portable wealth as I can and get the hick out of dodge. But his in to deep at this point he must know that eventually either the Turks regardless who takes over will get rid of him and be done with it. Or his brother who he both heats and fears will come for his head. Either way his time will come. You can run on for a long time but sooner or later god will cut you down


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