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The Full Meaning of the Christian Cross

🕑 Added 2025-06-01 16:45:25 +0000 UTC

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Tian Wu

I look at their holy scriptures and practices. You ought to look at their Talmud and what it teaches. I agree with the principles of Christ, judge them by their fruits. That's how you determine what is good.

Ryan Jolly

Maybe, or maybe the Jews were right, the way I see it is: Jesus' sacrifice isnt what I consider sacrifice, being that sacrifice could be considered a gift of sorts, no, Jesus' death, as with all death is a statement that good grows from evil/ darkness, that you dont get this world, these people, without death, without being grown from the nothingness. That being said, not all evil is good, though it is always evil, it can bear fruit which can redeem that which was taken. I.e. the food we eat, sure wouldnt like being eaten, but at the end of the day, they want life because it is better than the nothing, and so, they have a chance at life, same as we do, and we owe it to them to make the world good, since we took them. I dont like sacrifice, nor useless taking, nor taking at all tbh, all taking should be in service to that which is in service to all, though, this may be the reason why things exist in the first place, a karmic tree where the pull is toward shared desire (hard to say what has the most pull in this sense, consciousness, good, life, things or another power (perhaps it is the power to pull fate itself, and perhaps humans have a monopoly on that, which could mean that the rest of life is effectively our slave)). id say, that is the through line between both testaments, and the line between all religions. I dont see Jesus as god, but I do see him as the word of god. As far as heaven, IDK, but if there is, this world was needed for it to be filled. Spitballing here, but maybe the tree is karma, i.e. destined fate and all force which made that which is and would be, and the snake is the consciousness that occupies it, though, is it the tree of life, or is it the tree of knowledge? I guess you would have to taste the fruit it bares to find out. now, the final thought of this would be, what about god? if this is how the world is made, is there a consciousness on the otherside of synchronicity or is it just an extension of us, and are those mutually exclusive?

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God bless you too!

Tian Wu

Wow. This is insightful. I look forward to part 2. As you said, there are people sensitive to this subject, either they are stiff-necked in their religion and/or race. I pray they will be open minded to at least read your insight with respect - as we all should pursue and harmonize with Truth. This is very bold. May God bless you.


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