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New Patreon Pricing Model
🕑 Added 2017-12-08 06:41:54 +0000 UTC If you haven't been notified already, you most likely will soon. Patreon will be changing the way it handles pricing, moving service fees from the creators to the patrons, at 2.9 percent plus 35 cents per charge (so a $1.00 pledge with fees attached would end up being more like $1.38). This can be good for creators, as they get to keep more of their pledged amounts, but places a greater financial burden on you patrons, especially on Patreons like mine which charge per item, rather than monthly.Anyway, what I'm trying to say it that if you prefer not to foot the added charges and end up dropping my Patreon or switching to a lower-cost tier, I won't take it personally, even if I have to go the ramen-dinner route more often. ;)
Eric Schwartz
Comments
Ed Corulli aka DragonAmongUs
So what would a per month option be? Do you have one available?
Simone Spinozzi
after deliberating with myself i decided than instead of giving here $1 up to 5/month i'll just give $5 but just 1/month, this will keep "multiple pledge fees" down. (will still keep $1 reward
Simone Spinozzi
I'm conflicted, i'm already dropping a lot of creators right now. All stuff i had pledged to because of adblock use. But i think i'll keep Erik.
Todd Whitesel
on a more general note, if they really go through with this change, I will be dropping probably all of my $1 pledges, and possibly quitting Patreon completely. So yeah, sorry Eric, if I drop off it's not because of anything you did. It's all on Patreon
Todd Whitesel
I read the same blog post and I still think the official explanation is BS. Whoever devised this at Patreon literally did not care why the creators had asked for pay-up-front in the first place -- they don't care about pay-up-front per se, they just wanted a solution to freeloaders who got access to content before being charged. There are many other solutions for that problem which don't involve destroying what made Patreon successful in the first place. But it really feels like Patreon deliberately chose the "solution" that would let them charge people the most fees possible. Note with most creators, Patreon probably pockets a good chunk of that because their in-house credit card processor is a lot cheaper (for them) than PayPal.
Simone Spinozzi
it bears repeating so i'm repeating it here: ok. So... i just read a blog post. And, as i suspected, this pledge move on Patreon is just a move to make "payments upfront" possible. "Never explain with malice what simple idiocy can explain it." in this case patreon thought that since patrons would want their pledge to last "a month"... :facepalm: they are splitting the payment process into micropayments so, when i said that the "per transaction fee" was identical... apparently i was right, i just did not think that the people at patreon would be as idiotic as to think that people could not hold it together and wait the right moment before pledging or that they could not accept that pledging near the end of a period was going to be detrimental. Basically they are covering their asses for a problem that is not there because it happens too few times and in the meantime they are making life impossible for everybody :facepalm: They think that if people were to be free to pledge at any moment they would pledge more often. :facepalm: I think they think money grows on trees or something. People are more worried about wasting a lot of money very often than "donating to a cause" every now and then as was seen by people pledging at the last moment before collection. So by allowing the "month" to be flexible people will be continuously wasting a lot of money on collection fees. :facepalm: I'm facepalming so hard that i think i'll switch to :headdesk:ing in order to find something softer for my forehead
Alexey Belovolsky
It seems to me that most of your patrons will understand and won't stop financial support in any case.))
Sleepnir
Really hoping they roll this back in the next 2 weeks, or at the very least make it a per-creator option like charge upfront, or else I'd have to cut 1/4 of the 35ish creators I support to keep relatively the same bill. Otherwise it's over a 20% price hike for me. Pretty terrible pricing structure.
Ztpia
thanks for the heads up!
