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Chapter 203: Vitality Training

🕑 Added 2022-09-16 22:45:36 +0000 UTC

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Conor McGroarty

What are Kayafe’s levels and classes? Her bond is water and around 2,000 and she is a step above weak legendary tier beings (mid legendary?). Not much else I know from an analyze.

Jachin Nelson

Water Bond

Neropol

I don't see a problem, as long as Kayafe doesn't forcefully fall asleep in the heat of the upcoming battle against the dwarves; due to her soul exhaustion( or whatever we call it). Perhaps that might become a problem.

Comiak

The sofa thing was supposed to be comedic, and there are a few events coming up that will give Aly a challenge if you wanna stay for that but if not then I hope you find a novel that suits your taste better.

Pawzom Lz

Seems like the answer might be somewhere in between what the 2 of us thought then. Still an absurd amount though. Kayafe will probably have to sleep eventually. Might be months/years or something in between though so probably wont have an impact on the story one way or another?

Neropol

So I reread the part where she gets her memories back, and it does sound like she was awake the entire time. So I look back at the first chapter, where Aly started to describe one part of her experience in the void and found that she could sleep or more or less get forced into dormancy. [I try to stay conscious but it’s useless; I fall into dormancy, waking up to find the void has grown significantly.] (l.21-22) Between her dormancy phases are still millions or billions of years where she is awake. At least, that is how I understood that. I guess souls still need to sleep at some point. Kayafe was still in her body and constantly manipulated mana around the nexus so her people could survive the harsh environment. Aly watched the entire time, which should cost almost no energy; she might stay awake much longer for this reason. We will see if Kayafe, a being out of vitality, still needs to sleep at some point.

Jeanean

From the very start, this story was more about discovering magic, artifact creation, and worldbuilding in general. The action has always been more of a necessity than an actual focus.

Pawzom Lz

We dont know if the reason Kayafe could ''sleep'' in the Arc was because it is made of her body and mana though. She most certainly did not count as dead since she was able to make a new body out of vitality, which means her classes, mind and racial bonus was still intact. The same cant be said for Aly's soul in the void. The need to sleep is a physical need for the extreme majority of living creatures. The fact that Kayafe no longer sleeps somewhat supports this. Maybe she can sleep since she has a mind but no longer requires it since she has a vitality body now? This still does not mean Aly could sleep while in the void since she had neither a body nor a mind section to do the actual sleeping with.

Neropol

In chapter 50 (Ancestral meeting), Aly talks to Kayafe again. ["Hello" It felt as if Kayafe was asleep and I just woke her up. I can see her soul in the Arc now, the mind section of it becoming active.] Maybe sleep is not the correct term for it, but her soul is undoubtedly in standby mode. So I would say Aly did not go insane because her mind section was inactive then. I also should reread the moment where she regains her memories; I am not entirely sure what happened at that time.

Pawzom Lz

I dont think souls, that count as materials, can sleep. Kayafe is no longer a being of flesh but vitality, so she no longer requires sleep. Though she seemed to be able to enter some kind of hibernation when she was in the Arc, but then again she also did not count as being dead or she would not have been able to make a new body? The Arc was made of her mana and body so maybe that is why she could sleep in it? Reason I think she did not go insane during her time in the void was probably because she was considered a material, or did not have a mind, only a soul, or both? Probably a very good reason Yrania helped her process her memories the way she did, or she would prob have broken on the spot now that she do have a mind? In order to be able to handle the sheer weight of her memories after experiencing them without breaking you would probably need Unlimited Minds.

Neropol

I would say that there is a vast difference in perception. Sure Aly's soul has survived an unimaginable amount of time, but she also slept most of it. I think Aly's soul just got it all subconsciously, but due to her skill archive of eternity, she can remember every important notification broadcasted during that time. So while her soul was experiencing the feeling of nothingness, she could not go insane because she wasn't aware of it, maybe? In contrast, living beings do not have that kind of protection; being aware of nothingness would most likely crush all unless you can sleep the entire time. Maybe the Reality Eater isn't aware of what it is doing and only follows it's programming, like a bacteria or virus. If Aly is able to make a "void memory barrier" around her mind, where you need billions of years to cross, you could say it would be the ultimate defense. Every entity would need insane amounts of time, also must prevent their mind from going crazy, and must stay in Aly's perception field to maintain the connection. There is no way Aly misses a mind attack in that amount of time.

Pawzom Lz

Aly is working on Inscription, which I guess will eventually become a skill. Maybe she could do something similar with this attack and refine it enough for it to become a skill also, one unique to her? An Ultimate skill unique to her if something like that is even possible? Or maybe it can be learned but only by those who have survived the skill in its entirety with their mind intact? With the use of her title, maybe the memory skill can be turned into a mental barrier through a ritual, protecting her from sudden mind attacks? In order to get to Aly's mind, the attackers mind needs to travel through the memory first. If they give up they either need to travel back or abandon the mind/s which Aly can then claim?

Pawzom Lz

4 times has she been damaged while fighting, that I can remember at least. 1st time was when she was a kid during the winter storm when a domr attacked, and she damaged herself with manipulate mana trying to use it on the dorm. This was the result of her curse though... 2nd time was when her perceptive eye got attacked by the spider, not sure if this counts? 3rd time was when one of her minds got attacked and controlled by the mind slime.(the 2nd and 3rd might be in the wrong positions) 4th time was the Mind Eater.

Pawzom Lz

Millions is nothing compared to what Aly's soul has experienced. Scientists believe the universe will end at earliest 22 billion years in the future. If we assume Alysara is from our current time, then that is how long she experienced in her old universe alone at minimum, sort off. Some believe the universe will expand forever and so on, but this story is clearly going with the fact that it ends naturally so we can go with this number I suppose? Aly has experienced fifty-two million cycles, with some of them ending naturally and some ending due to other reasons like the Reality Eater.

Neropol

That would be a nasty attack; Imagine having experienced millions of years of nothingness in your head; that would crush everyone.

Pawzom Lz

An idea for a mind attack Aly can develop for her mind class is something similar to Tsukuyomi from the Naruto series. What she can do is take the memories of her time in the void, remove anything special that happened she dont want her target to know about and then force the target to experience it all? Could be called Eternal Solitude or something. Would probably be especially effective vs mind mages that try to actively get access to her memories, she'll let them, but only the unimportant void portion. Perfect attack and defense in one against them.

Pawzom Lz

Now with the bond having to connect with anima, a bond soul class as her 3rd class seems like the perfect fit as it would massively help in item creation on top of soul attacks, which fits with how Aly wants classes that can also be used in daily life and not just in combat. When Aly had her anima healed by the healer, it was mentioned she could hold far more anima than normal, which is not a surprise with her soul. Having a specific class for the soul will allow her to take advantage of how special it is and maybe help her heal her anima on her own? Or copy the vitality drain she did this chapter and do anima drain instead? Would be useful in helping her increase the likelihood of items becoming magical if she have a way to restore anima on her own as then she can just heal herself after making an anima sacrifice(was mentioned the healer sometimes have to heal the anima of her crafters due to them doing this). Dwarves also have means of using the soul as a source of energy, which she might be able to figure out how to do after studying their magitech with a soul class for a power boost or as an additional sacrifice to further increase chance of items becoming magical, after which she will be able to recover thanks to that class, her beauty bond and her soul being special? Was also mentioned that Kayafe's Dwarf companion, who was a soul mage, knew how to transfer his mana core to items, and rebuild the core. This would be a massive help in item creation and creating more airships, as the mana core can be used instead of mana generating monster materials, which will help her with the airship trial.

Tjark

Well, Life is beautiful. Or something like that. Does Kayafe also have a beauty bond?

Falxie

Loved the chapter! Tyty!

TargetDrone

yeah, i know, i held on as long as i could. and it isn't as if the story wasn't enjoyable in quite some chapters, but this plopping down the sofa just rubbed it in a bit too much for me i guess... just finally realized the story might not be for me, doesn't mean i dont wish the author the best of luck with it.

AClassroomSpider

thank you for the chapter!. .

Robert Mullins

You... You know it's been this way from almost the very beginning of the story right? I think she's only been damaged by something she was fighting twice in the entire story. It's not like this chapter is deviating from a different norm. I mean, feel free to drop it if you don't care for this aspect but it seems weird you made it this far if that is the reason.

TargetDrone

yeah, thats why i hate clone fuckery in stories.... it get boring without any risk invovled. the moment she plopped down the sofa, i started skimming the chapter .. oh well, your story, your decision, but i am out at the end of the month.

Belkoth

Sounds like something that could get quickly out of hand and you end up with a runaway grey goo scenario.

Comiak

that is how she weaves vitality silk, but it's more complicated than that. on average all the vitality's charge would be neutral but individually they vary so it requires conscious effort to do that.

Andrew

Thank you!

Jeanean

Now, here is a thought: Alysara could make Vitality threads by manipulating a single mote of vitality to bond not with one other mote of vitality, but instead half-bond with two, setting of a chain reaction that causes more vitality to snap into place like magnets and creating a thread. Shouldn't that be an EXTREMELY efficient way to cause vitality damage, because she only has to manipulate a single mote, and the rest happens all on its own?

Demerval Augusto da Cunha

ty

VidDav FerDeL

Thx for the chap


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