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August channel update

🕑 Added 2023-08-24 02:37:51 +0000 UTC
August channel update

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Noisy Andrew (partymeeple)

Sheesh. I'm going to have to read this twice.

Taitset

Yes it would have been very cool if we got a batch of 3000s for use on the Stony Point line! And would certainly be good for stuff like Wyndham Vale now, at least until it gets electrified.

Taitset

I am also not a fan of 'everything must be a VLocity,' which is probably another thing I will include - how they're really not great for the long distance runs. I will definitely be mentioning the Gippsland electrification too, I think it's something most people outside the railfanoshpere don't know about!

oddconverse!

So excited for the runaway Comeng video! I've always been fascinated by that story but never properly looked into it. Also, it has always confused me that places like Deer Park and Wyndham Vale are only serviced by V/Line trains while Pakenham gets Metro trains, especially because Metro clearly can run diesel services (Stony Point line). Have thought for a while that rolling stock like Adelaide's 3000-series could have been built for those shorter journey diesel destinations, which could then be operated by Metro.

Alex Pennini

You know, that's such a good point about the conditioning around electrification and diesel and if I've got to be honest, I've fallen guilty to that internal separation. We equate electrification to 'Metro', when it could actually be both, not a case of one or another, and we used to have electric V/Line stuff with the L class locos back in the day. It would be good to see dedicated, medium distance trains with decent seats, toilets, drinking fountains, etc, for use on lines like Geelong, Ballarat, Bendigo and Seymour (but I say that as someone who's not really a fan of the everything must be a VLocity mindset and just wants new trains).

Taitset

Ah it was you who suggested it! I've been sort of thinking about it for a while, took me a bit to get around to re-reading all 75 pages of the report haha. I'll definitely be including those transcripts from the phone calls, some of them are quite funny (although probably not at the time!). The main thing I want to cover in the V/line/Metro one is how in Victoria we've become conditioned to think that all country trains are diesel and all suburban trains are electric, so when the electrification expands so does the 'Metro' style service, even when it gets to quite long distances where suburban trains aren't really appropriate any more. NSW on the other hand has done an excellent job with (what used to be called) the interurban area, running comfortable electric trains on 100km+ routes. The flip side of that is stuff like Wyndham Vale & Caroline Springs, which are absolutely suburban stations but get the V/line level of service just because they aren't electrified. With our own 'interurban' area now seeing basically a full commuter-style service, I would like to see some lines (most immediately Geelong) electrified, and use proper medium-distance electric trains with decent seats, toilets etc. And there's no reason why they couldn't still be operated by V/line. It's kind of complicated (which is why it's taken me so long to write) but I think it's a really interesting topic that most people don't give much thought to.

Alex Pennini

Woohoo! You're doing the Broadmeadows video - I did suggest that a few months ago on either here or Youtube back but I think a few other people might have put that forward as a suggestion too. I remember seeing photos of the accident, and the ATSB report has a transcript of some of the phone calls made on the night. It's interesting to imagine what it all sounded like and trying to place a fast moving train in motion. I really like the Shorts, and I noticed how high the Tangara video had gotten up there so fast! I like the format at the moment where it links into a bigger video, driving views towards the channel, helps everything link together. The Melbourne/VLine gap video would be super fascinating, especially with historical stuff like the New Deal, the Sprinter trains, privatization v state operated, etc. I just visited Sydney and there's seemingly no distinction between regional and metro trains there.


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