The Great Gundam Project 70: Char's Counterattack

Astonishing how bloodthirsty you two were for the asteroid to drop! My take on this movie is that Char has a nasty habit of grooming children into becoming suicidal war machines, and thats bad (Char seduces his child soldiers, whereas Bright beats them). Char is just a egotistical misanthrope who hates everyone, and his plan would have done nothing to truly punish the corrupt Federation leadership (who were clearly happy to sell out Earth to Char and profit from his schemes, just as they were happy to sell out to Haman, and also they were the only people with ability to evacuate). Love the podcast

I think Amero's position would have been better articulated if it pointed out that Char's plan would have ultimately failed. Like you say we don't get to see it pan out, but I think alternative to seeing it, we could have had Amero give his take on what the result would be. What I think the result would be is further oppressions of Spacenoids even if everybody is now technically a Spacenoid. Char giving warning is supposed to humanize him and show he does not want to kill he just want's everyone off earth. However what the show demonstrated was that the rich, privilaged and powerful left earth and the poor working class on earth largely are who remained. Even if a few were killed in the decoy attack the result is that while he may have removed people from earth the power structure he wished to topple would in fact remain. The earth federation would move its capitol to a Side and then just continue to hunt remnants of Zion. The fight would become between old and new Spacenoids (followers of Char?). The new emboldened federation would likely double down on Titans style military with much more public support from people who lost loved ones or who were just to shocked by the actions taken in the name of revolution. If Char had offered to ferry people off the Earth that would be different. Hell we have already seen multiple times that bombing the fuck out of Earth does not serve the cause of Zion. If Amero had been shown to have this insight I think it would have been a better movie.

Em and Jackson, want to thank you both for giving this discussion plenty of room to breathe. This episode going up on youtube a little while ago is what made me come join the patreon! Having gone back through all the previous GGP eps leading up to this, you have both made me re-evaluate my understanding of Gundam (and frankly IRL politics). I feel as if I had blinders on due to my IRL privilege and bought into the Char badguy vs Amuro goodguy positioning and you have thoroughly shaken me out of that. The revolution discussion that occurs in your post-movie-summary in particular is pretty profound. Every fellow Gundam fan should be subbed to you and hear this.

The Queen Of Time

Here's my take, no one was right. Amuro was too passive, Char was too passive. Bright took away all the wrong lessons from his past and no one ever made an attempt to resolve the underlying issues they talk about without mass loss of life.

The only thing I don't like about the episode is the hate for cops(which I understand) and how they think that there is only one right choice for something.

Abnormal Mapping

You can def write in if you have a different read! We were collecting opinions because we know this is a movie with a lot of different takes.

The constant ends justify the means preaching really turned me off this episode