BYE SISTER Part Three: Gummies, God, and Gucci
🕑 Added 2024-09-05 20:30:47 +0000 UTCThe question that divides a nation: was this about vitamins? Today, we excavate the 24 months of fallout that followed Tati’s and James’s original videos. Palettes are peddled, silence is broken, lives are streamed, and God herself is seen on home video footage. This is “the last time we’ll be talking about this.”
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Haylee Duncan
The straw squeak sent me and I have no idea why 🤣
Kevin Koval
Did I come back to this video after less than a day because I have more thoughts? Of course I did. I kinda want to push back on this closing note that Tati Westbrook goes off the deep end of weird spirituality and pseudoscience as a result of the psychological damage she underwent from all of this. I'm sure that played a part, but lest we forget that before "Bye Sister," Tati launched a scammy vitamin company called Halo. She was already showing herself to dabble in the pseudoscientific and spiritually weird before she received all this hate. It reminds me of your Gwen Stefani video, where underneath all the layers of cultural appropriation she revealed herself to be just a little Catholic girl from Orange County. Which is to say I wonder if Tati Westbrook wouldn't have always ended up where she is now regardless of "Bye Sister" and its fallout. Do I have even more thoughts? Of course I do, but they are still a little half baked. In the meantime I'm very excited to dive into part 4 of the saga!
Kevin Koval
Such a great video once again! I can't believe how much of this section of the saga I've blocked out of my mind. Like I completely forgot about Shane Dawson's livestream reaction to Tati's video, but I had an immediate and visceral reaction when you brought it up. What a truly unhinged moment in time. But I will never forget Jeffree Star's 2020 apology video thumbnail. Truly a work of art.
Stewie
Love this series - Kat is fabulous! Anyone else hella distracted by the purple wrapper trash in the otherwise lovely setting?
Mink
Does anyone know the quote from the office “stop asking yourself easy questions to make yourself look like a genius”
Ido Gonen
I'm just absolutely stunned by how incredibly engaging this entire drama is!!! Why do I have a feeling that Ryan Murphy will eventually churn a limited series based on this? Feud season 3 maybe?
William Bachman
I don't want to put forth any diagnoses or conditions, but I do believe in pointing out odd behavior patterns. After the initial scandal and call out, there was undoubtably a lot of stress put upon Tati, and stress can trigger people in certain ways. Given the change in her behavior, the fast-track to psuedo-science and faith, the very surprising claims she is making surrounding AI and technology in her home, I think Tati is showing signs of paranoid delusions. That's not necessarily an awful thing, especially since she has access to resources and support. But especially at the end of the episode, hearing what Tati went through and the short clip of her, it sounds like she eventually hit a huge crisis point. I'm nervous about next episodes discussions honestly.
William Bachman
When Jeffery Star mentions Breonna Taylor and Black trans women being murder, he follows it up soon after by saying "All beauty matters" in regards to his upcoming releases. I do NOT think that was a coincidence, he absolutely is playing on Black Lives Matter and All Lives Matter . He is very, very cheeky in his videos, and he likes to play the line where he just barely admits the truth in our faces.
Ava Snyder
i could listen to you two speak forever. this is incredible 😭
Jim
This whole Dramageddon got namedropped in a lawsuit against Tati Westbrook and her Vitamins by a businesspartner of her, also a drama commentator was given infos by said businesspartner.. that was a wild ride im unsure not many people know!
Abby
Watching these has made me realize being 16 when "bye sister" dropped is one of the best and suddle flexes ever. It was the talk of my friend group (and the entire high school tbh). It is interesting to now listen to all of this years later and realize how gullible and sympathetic I was to all these sociopaths. Very excited for part 4 because I stopped following it after 2020.
Artie
I was younger when all this was going down and wasn’t able to experience it with the nuances that you guys bring, so happy these videos exist !!!
Rudi
Kat deserves all the awards for her reading of Shane’s Notes app statement 🙏🙏
Simon Narode
This was so good. Can't wait for part 4.
Aninja
Listening to this again will be my hungover cure for today
Darian
I love that there will be another episode of this saga. I watched Jen Luv’s videos recently on James Charles and it’s been FASCINATING to piece together. Thank you for blessing me with this content.
Ember
Laughing midway through this at your comment, Matt, of ‘it’s a free country…kind of’ - I say that all the time😂😅 So damn true sadly. Great episode so far - I am a newb to this whole drama because I had a bunch of personal life drama in 2019 and missed ALL of this so I am just so engrossed😄
Ali Spencer
Facts ❤️
Mita K
And I will always eat it up
Matt Bernstein
mita i will be on my deathbed finding new things to extract from this shakespearian drama
Matt Bernstein
and we're proud of that sister!
Matt Bernstein
it's the halo pills we've been sneaking you
Matt Bernstein
we honor the traditional moviegoing experience when discussing the sacred texts
Elli Seiff
now i’m watching tatis new video about her sobriety journey. i don’t wish to make fun of her progress, but there are a lot of things clicking together after watching that. she says the quiet part out loud about how she replaced substances with consumerism, for instance. i’m just fascinated by the insight into her mind, particularly after watching your videos recently. i was also someone who watched tati allllll of the time B.B.S (before bye sister).
Orlanda
I loved this, thank you for feeding us ❤️
Ash Carson Green
6 hours of unedited footage from this & you only gave us 2?? 😆😆😆 No wonder you had to pee haha, yous must have been starving as well!
The Mad Jay Woman
Getting it on the record that I legit made popcorn before sitting down to watch this 😏🍿
Lara Hetherington
I’ve been waiting for this so intensely and it was everything I had hoped and dreamed
adiella
Okay I’m starting to the realize the the whole reason I was even interested in this drama to begin with was so that five years later I could watch this series. You guys are amazing!
Mx Harry-Anne
Daaaamn the hole just gets deeper. As someone was only tangentially aware of Goodbye Sister, the context was very helpful. And now the aftermath is going so far off the rails 0-0 so many videos that didn't need to be made, the endless lack of moving on is just so wild.
Shayla Nelson
Keep it coming keep it coming
MacKenzie
Will I continue to rehash all things dramageddon with Matt and Kat? Yes. Will I feel guilty about the amount of brain space these four YouTubers still occupy for me? No. 💅🏻
MacKenzie
Shane’s rambling statement is so much worse than I remember 😭 and a masterclass on how to overuse hypophora.
For Autumn
The thing I can't stop thinking about re: Shane's involvement is that he got so upset that James wanted to be involved in the making of a documentary that he tried to destroy this kid only to *check note* release the fluffiest, shallowest "documentary" about the "makeup industry" which was just him swooning over Jeff's alleged wealth while Jeff tried to fuck his friend.
noam
this all happened when I was 15 and I DID immediately read the homophobic undertones in bye sister but bought shane dawson being poor hook line and sinker. I really thought big companies had exploited his internet fame until this point. I thought his house was just what suburban houses looked like in california. i wasnt a stan idgaf about shane before his documentary era (which i would argue started with his series on his dad and meeting his hater, although maybe that was just soft testing the formula for the exploitative influencer deepdives he ended up doing) and when I did start watching him he was reeeally riding on goodwill from being bisexual and being on a Tyler Oakley Auguest video one time.
Anna
Amazing video but I keep forgetting that you're both outside so I thought there was a bird in my office 😅
Ali Spencer
This whole series has been giving me seratonin 😍
Ella 123
Loved seeing this notif in the morning and knowing that when I got hone from work all I had to do was sit on my couch and DEVOUR this.
Courtney
Girlie the vocal fry is… frying
Blue Cola
So excited for this thank you Matt!!! Such a big fan
Valerie Blackbird
I'm telling you, I knew of none of this. Holy hell, 😳😳😳! I'm without words. That's an accomplishment, lol. 😄
Fern Frisbie
I listened on my commute home and while I cooked dinner, this was what I needed this week thank u Matt and Kat
Mita K
Stellar content as always!! The fact that you can have insightful takes on drama that was seemingly talked to death is impressive
Kat Donaldson
I’m so glad I took a microdose this morning, todays gonna be fucking great 💕
Nomki Naomi
I just audibly gasped so loud rn when i saw this post
Ash Carson Green
I can't believe there's gonna be a part 4 and I'm so excited 😂😂 Thank yous!!! For your work 🙏 appreciate yous sitting down and doing this for us
Nickie Bro
When you read Shane's notes app post and you got to the humble pie line I SCREAMED. How could I have forgotten the humble pie 😭 What's insane to me too is that, iirc, Shane had a few months/maybe a year earlier made a generalized "apology" video about his past behavior re: his old racist youtube content, and that had kind of been the impetus of him pivoting to the documentary stuff maybe? Or it had been around the time his early docuseries style videos started? I remember that period so clearly because it was around the same time that Jenna Marbles had also made her apology/leaving YouTube video, and I was like... how is this guy still making content and everyone is forgiving him, but Jenna Marbles (who yes did make racist content, but to nowhere near the scale of Shane's) is dropping off the face of the earth?? Then later on when he had to make his notes app statement, and then even later than that, his video addressing the beastiality/pedophilic content of his that was being resurfaced, I remembered thinking that there was nooo way in hell he was ever going to bounce back from that. It was just so wild to me how many apology/addressing scandal videos Shane had made within like a 3-4 year timespan, how wildly different in tone they all were, and how differently they had all been recieved. Anyways. Rambling over, great vid as always. It's craaaazy going down this trip of YouTube Scandal Past
Abigail Allen
Wow, 4 parts? We are blessed.
Martine
The way I finished part 1 & 2 this week, and have this moving into the weekend, THANK YOU, MATT 💗
Matt Bernstein
🙏🏼
Nik Losievski
FUCK YES!!! So excited!!!
Audrey Corcoran
i’m less than 1 min into the video and i just wanna say that matt’s outfit is mlm/wlw solidarity
sanriosticker
HIGHLIGHT OF MY WEEK
LilKingTrashMouth
Oh, I am so ready.
Cordelia Reagan
Fixing my whole week tysm
Tina
I reloaded my Patreon such an embarrassing amount of times for this moment 🙏💕
Tara
I just know this is gonna cure my cold (I've taken medicine don't worry)
Anthony Cahoon
Same!!
Julia
I'M SAT
Niamh Smith
The way I gasped
Adi David
I CLICKED SO FAST