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Source to be used for Next Guru episode: Jaron Lanier

🕑 Added 2022-05-07 06:34:32 +0000 UTC

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Allan Hutton

And not everyone who isn’t autistic is high functioning. I have had colleagues who have needed more support than the supported people. Take your 1st year philosophising and stick it up your jacksey son. Or as my Glaswegian elders might have said, “away and work!”

Andy

Is your contention that having fewer autistic people in the future would not in fact be better? Not every autistic person is high functioning. I’m inclined to believe that he’s right. Why not remove that unnecessary suffering from future generations?

Allan Hutton

I work with autistic people too. He doesn’t understand the word or has some catholic definition that we don’t know about

Christopher Kavanagh

Have to be careful when I make that criticism. (Chris)

CeeCee

At 39:42 minutes in the source material Jaron says that a better world would be a less autistic world. Have I misunderstood his intentions?Autistic people are in fact human and all the autistic people I know are wonderfully colourful, insightful, compassionate and positively divergent individuals.

Tom McCool

This sentence: Today, a conversation with Jaron, from his home in California, about the dangers of groupthink, digital maoism, ideology sluts, censorship, capitalism, universal basic income, Facebook, robots, billionaires, wokeness and losing yourself in the ambiguity of the internet’s fake reality. Digital maoism? Ideology sluts? And of course wokeness.

Tom McCool

Is this sentence, like headlines, written by Bari as a guide for discussion or has this jumble or ‘word salad’ come straight from Lanier? Maybe a poll? I’m betting on Bari.

Emma

Ohh that laugh is a bit grating!

Starshark

I'm not listening to god-damn Bari Weiss. I'll assume you're being fair.

Sean Hacobian

Looking forward to this one! I've been a fan of Lanier's work since first encountering him in The Social Dilemma. In particular, 'Who Owns the Future' (written around 10 years ago by this point) offers one of the first fleshed-out critiques of big data & the manipulative algorithms behind 'The Advertising Model', and is also a book that, ironically, acknowledges the veneration of Gurus & their manipulative techniques from within Silicon Valley circles (see 'the 6th Interlude' of the book). At the same time however, Lanier is also a dualist, which will no doubt be a focus of critique for Matt and Chris. Lanier has stated in another interview with Lex Friedman that he holds this view 'pragmatically' but hey, that still doesn't mean it's off limits for critique. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx0G6DHMfXM (timestamp around 1.29.30 - 1.31.00 for talk about dualism and panpsychism) Will be interested to see what you guys can 'decode'!