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MORE Lab Leak Discourse: Nothing New

🕑 Added 2024-08-26 01:57:57 +0000 UTC

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Christopher Kavanagh

Alina Chan’s article is full of inaccurate claims and conspiracy mongering. Basically everything raised has already been covered (we discussed almost all of it with experts over a year before). So the article and her presentation, as always, provides a misleading representation of the relevant strength of the evidence. People who rely on articles like Alina’s come away with the impression that there is a significant body of evidence for the lab leak being at best ignored if not actively suppressed by virologists. None of that is true.

Emit

I very much enjoy what Chris and Matt are doing at DTG, and I agree with many others here that they bring some sanity to a pretty wild environment. That said, I do not understand the problem with the NYT publishing an opinion piece by Alina Chen on the origins of COVID-19. Even though a majority of the scientists with relevant expertise think that a zoonotic origin is more likely than a lab-leak, many experts assign a non-negligible probability to the latter, and most agree that more origin research is needed. Here is an article from Science.org reporting on a survey conducted earlier this year among virologists, epidemiologists, and other experts: https://www.science.org/content/article/virologists-and-epidemiologists-back-natural-origin-covid-19-survey-suggests

Karl

Hopefully if we continue to have these thoughtful and sometimes difficult conversations we can finally get to the bottom of this

Daas Nahk

He's absolutely just brainrotted on the topic

Syster

I have a very serious and important peterson speech u should decode https://www.tumblr.com/crash3warped/759423280315809792? I have no idea if this is approriate but i laughed during the entire thing so i wanted to share

Linda Sears

I’m very concerned that Chris doesn’t have his HAZMAT suit fully zipped up. And both have their heads and hands exposed! Who knows what sneaky pathogens could get in??

Don Schaffner

For a deep dive by virologists on the same article, folks might enjoy https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-special-how-the-pandemic-began/

Sean Doody

DTG thumbnail game is heating up 😎

Intergalactic Panda Wrangler

Yeah. He and his cohost are just transphobic. They try not be, but can’t help it. It puts them in the same mindset on that issue as Rogan is on every issue: they will believe anything that fits with their existing worldview.

IDW Dinner Club

I have a similar frustration about someone like Jesse Singal in the trans discourse

Jill

Matt and Chris look like members of the Beastie Boys i

Chris Spanos

The video thumbnails are on point! Maybe it's time for Professor Matthew Brown and Associate Professor Chris Kavanagh to submit their own article to the NYT?