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MiP B2 Chapter 3: Planning

🕑 Added 2024-03-28 03:03:36 +0000 UTC

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Dan Chadwick

Since we're already working with programming, how about structures analog to electronics; capacitors, inductors, transistors, comparitors, load balancers, transformers... amplifiers... and filters, inverters, collators

Dan Chadwick

Like an internal computer, or imaginarium...

Dan Chadwick

That's how rings work...

Wolf_Senpai

Its possible that the backdoor had a specific trigger which was ACCIDENTALLY tripped. With all of the out of pocket shit amber and Carlos do, directly interacting with the very system used for mana and spell casting and enchanting..... It would be like setting a password that you THINK you are the only one who knows because of how niche it is, and someone guessing it on accident because they are also knowledgeable about said niche.

George

I wonder about the interrogation of their prisoner concerning the hacks that were applied to fool the guard's armor. My guess is that a rogue enchanter helped come up with it and that it works to suppress all sorts of common guard armor functions such as sensing, communications, and diagnostics, and it's used by various shady organizations who can afford it. I think the Blades had no idea the guards were Royal Guards and just tried their anti-guard-armor tool/spell/thing and were happy when it worked. Question is, when the Crown do figure out how the hack worked, do they publicise it and take down the perpetrator, or do they just quietly close the vulnerability in their own kit and add the tool to their arsenal? I know an alternate theory is that some part of the Enchanter's guild intentionally left a backdoor in their armour, but there's no way the guild would hand out a trump card like that to outside organizations, nor risk spending it just to kill off Carlos. I could maybe see them doing it to kidnap him to extract information about the mobile dungeon core, but these kidnappers were clearly attempting soul murder, which doesn't benefit the guild.

George

Pretty sure we've only gotten glimpses so far. Looking forwards to the big reveal!

George

The way I interpreted it, those original structures and synergies are now just base functions of their single tier 2 structure. If the old synergies still counted as such, their absorption rate would not have been crippled anywhere near as much as it was. We've heard earlier that someone can make a soul structure that is too broad in scope, weakening all its functions. Tier 2 structures seem to work around this restriction by being so compressed that all the complexity fits into a single structure without any loss of function. I think each new structure has the potential to connect a single synergy to the T2 structure if it can synergize to any one or more functions of that structure.

Ddave

Now we're talking! Now that we know that the debugger can completely disassemble a soul structure, Carlos can run a few experiments to determine the synergy requirements. Some very simple "mock" structures can quickly fill out his shell. I'm not sure, but have we seen Purples whole soul plan yet?

Isaac Boyles

Adderall batches are too variable sometimes. It's understandable

Malchior

A backup drive for their mental state and knowledge which functions by constantly checking their current state compared to a previous state to identify issues, a firewall to act as a barrier against outside magic, malware to defend against and remove outside magic that has bypassed the firewall, Purple already kind of acts like an internet connection, but perhaps they could build their own that would then allow them to "download" all of the words and info from the 'help' spell directly into their spell data bases and spell compiler, it might also function as a method to connect to others and siphon the knowledge of Word meanings, like a peer-2-peer backdoor to quickly learn all of the magical words they can.

Jambles

Every soul structure they make is probably gonna be a L1 structure and grow in the same way the first ones did. I think purpose-built structures wouldn't pose any problems, given that they take synergy into account. The interesting thing for me is how synergies work with the unification. Do those 45 synergies still exist? Can new structures form synergies with each of the previously-existing 10 structures that got unified, or would it only count as 1 synergy link? I'm not sure if the 45 original synergies are still counted, but I feel like each new structure can probably make links with all 10 of the original structures, and that would massively increase the amount of synergies you could achieve in stage 2. If that's the case, it would massively increase the efficiency of absorption and stuff. Especially if the original 45 synergies are still counted.

Jambles

Seems like it, yeah.

momonga

I was legit just wondering what happened with the Tostral investigation. Looking forward to Jamar getting karma.

Matt Null

I kinda like Granlan, hope he comes back with a little redemption for himself and his company while working alongside the crown, and maybe then in the service of C&A

taxes_R_theft

It seems that altering others' soul structures/improving their staff's soul plans should be very doable if they figure out how to craft an item that inserts a soul structure as the suppression cuffs did. Of course, such capabilities/services would be world-shattering.

Marian Ch

They would absolutely need some sort of structure that would keep some sort of snapshot of their normal mental states and compare it to current status in order to detect any outside influences. In turn, this would then send a signal to a firewall/antivirus to just cleanse the influence away via some arsenal of spells or maybe using some of the data gathered from how dungeons use mana.

Carl Mason

Still an interesting idea. Make the elemental focus "the four fundamental forces" instead, maybe one structure for each force and the others for Manipulation and detection, etc. and the mage could build matter from the photon level.

Carl Mason

With the first stage of unification complete, do the soul structures that they build hereafter need to exist on the same level or can they build L1 structures without a significant loss in capability? Would it cripple future advancement to build purpose specific structures as they did before or can/should they build structures based around unified soul plans for all their next structures?

Carl Mason

Communication is always appreciated in such cases.

Carl Mason

I wonder if the Tostrals are aware of the armor problems, or simply an unwitting beneficiary. Either way, they need to recieve punitive actions as well as their cabal of mana thieves.

Carl Mason

The leveling structure sounds like the mana redistributor in their initial set of structures, but another one with greater functionality now that they know how it goes and have the dungeon mana technique would be additionally helpful. Otherwise I second your list of possibilities.

Scott Snyder

Could not agree more. If the chapter is a day, a week late or even more that doesn’t matter. Your health is a priority.

Scott Snyder

Create a soul structure that binds spells to your fingers so when you focus mana there it activates the spell. Like hotkeys in a video game!

Elain C. Moria

I still think the "ultimate spell" should be to summon a 300 meter tall, nuclear fire breathing lizard with a bad attitude. Of course, that's only because I binge watched the monster series of Godzilla, Kong, Kong -vs- Godzilla, and Godzilla King of the monsters though lol. Carlos: Spell activate = Gojira Everyone else: WTF was that? What a loser.. wait.. why is the ground trembling like something huge is walking towards us? What's that soun.... Godzilla: Roars (translation "You're fucked")

Elain C. Moria

I was thinking of something along this idea. A spell amplifier (makes spells stronger, possible synergy with your mana capacitor idea). Basically something that takes say a light beam spell, and turns it into a laser type energy, or a wind spell, that turns it into a mach tunnel. Imagine the devastation a mach 3 wind lance would cause?

Milridor

You 'weak nuclear energy' is electromagnetism. (There is an actual weak nuclear force but that's completely difference)

Josh

Now that their 10 previous soul structures are unified into 1, does it have the same functionality as them all? So any new structure they make will have a massive boost just from the existing unified soul structure?

allsampah

Douglas, please don't apologize for taking care of your own health. While I'm sure your patrons appreciate the chapters, what you are going through health-wise is much more critical in the long run. This story is a pleasure, but your health will impact you forever.

Markell

Captain Granlan: “I’ll take the plea bargain with a large side of humble-pie thank you very much.”

ForNatureOfPredatorsStories4837

Okay, so most people (non-mages) use their soul structures to directly cause effects, and I assume a decent amount of people go for specializing their effects for whatever specific element they pick, and they attempt to then make more soul structures that synergize with the elemental effect that they have picked, like with how Esmeralda ((?) I think that’s her name, the wind ‘mage’ girl) specializes in the wind element, and the hostile captain dude specialized in lightning element, could in theory, if someone knew and understood how ‘strong nuclear energy’ worked (as opposed to ‘weak nuclear energy’, as in the force that allows chemicals to make chemical bonds and molecules) could they in theory make that their element and use it? Could Carlos make like a structure that give him “the ability to manipulate (all forms of) energy” and a structure that gives him “the ability to turn ‘mana’ and energy into stable mater, and stable matter into energy or ‘mana’” and then have control over the ‘nuclear element’, and turn/ divert powerful attacks from enemies 100+ levels above into pure mater, or use/convert matter to fuel his attacks, or use ‘nuclear element’ to make giant fire balls or explosions and kill his enemies with ease?

Brandon C

I was thinking about he wanted to cast two spells at once, but he couldn’t so he did it one at a time.

Irony

Oop, the crown is about to absolutely destroy that other noble house, the one that tried to kill Carlos. Glad to see they’re planning now and not just doing everything on the fly. Mad excited to see what new soul structures they make. And what staff they end up helping

Irakli Jishkariani

Maybe it'll be good to find alternative of mouth incantations? Like hand gestures or without anything of that kind and just mental command. Soul structure for that would be good.

Irakli Jishkariani

Spell concurrency is good idea but human has one mouth. How do you handle mumbles ? 😄😄 Or is it like spawn thread from code? Like carlos mumbles function and it handles all threads needed?

Beeees!

I get you, a bad batch means a month of unproductivity. Tftc! Someones about to have a bad day lmao

Darkarma

Only three new soul structions I can think of that might have decent synergies with themselves. Internal mana capacitor/compressor, external mana destabilizer, free-form mana manipulator

Maurice Brown

Ohhhh shit. They done goofed.

The Random NPC

Given the control dungeons seem to have over ambient mana, powering Purple and setting them on top of the mana well may be a way to have a variable mana well release chamber

RJD

I also feel the Adderall thing. TFTC

Customer Service

Potential valuable soul structures that are valuable in their own rights and also could enhance spellcasting? Hmm... First thought would be something akin to a parralell minds effect. The ability to give full focus to multiple tasks at once. Something to process large amounts of data rapidly. Something to assist with leveling up and effeciently applying the gathered aether would be great. I could see many uses for would be something to see that which is hidden. Not sure how arrays would apply to the magic system yet, but could prove interesting. Not sure if would be relevant, but if there is normally only a first compression, then creating a soul structure around causing further subsequent compressions could have a massive effect on development.

Brandon C

So a soul structure to do certain spells or do it more effectively? I would pick something very fundamental, not just a blink soul structure. Maybe spell concurrency? Interfacing with other soul structures is still a good idea.

Barbar

Lets go!

Ashley Wallis

Ohhh. Now we are talking. I like how the crown thinks!

Pheonixarcher

The crown is VERY interested in this incident

Jethro

Feel the Adderall thing

MoonlitShade

Woo tyftc

Justin Drake

Thank you for the meal


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