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🕑 Added 2021-12-19 04:24:15 +0000 UTCPosting a brief image update here. There has been a bit more back and forth between testing and tweeking designs this month. My intention this month is that the ruin buildings be resin and fdm printable. As I expect you know, there is a lot of new large format stuff starting to roll out from Phrozen, Anycubic, and Elegoo with the whole 6k/8k screens. There was even a cheap SLA style resin printer being kickstarted by Anycubic a few months back. Anyways it seems a good time as any to start looking toward the day when buildings get regularly resin printed and open ruin buildings seem like a good format for the subject! The bottom parts seem good for both but the the third floor roofs required a fairly significant redesign for FDM printability. So there will be a resin third floor and a fdm 3rd floor with these. I'll let the pictures do the rest, be sure to vote on the poll if you have not:)
Minor Note: Also Posted a couple patches on Discord for the old A10 Building in the customer service area. I'll get that patch added in other places over the next few days.
Comments
Niels Kristensen
Sorry for the double derailing of this thread by the way :)
Niels Kristensen
Cheers Skullian! Is the sonic cleaner a no go even when not heated up? I just bought a second one to be able to run warm and cold cleaning at the same time (I waste a lot of time waiting for it to cool down for cleaning thin bits).
Niels Kristensen
Thanks both. Yes the re-orienting can make a huge difference. I found that almost all spears or thin swords I get presupported from various patreons work much better if I re-orient them to a vertical position. I hadn't thought of applying this to larger models.
Mike Stickler
Low Shrinkage, Durability, Cost... Ummm 2 of 3 is usually the best you can do. Have you tried Siraya Tech Build. I've had good luck with all of their resins and they are active and helpful on their facebook group if you have issues including suggestions on re-orienting models to prevent warping
Thank you for the explanation! :)
There will be support free versions of any buildings for FDM printing. I typically design supports in if they are needed. Please do not use supports on buildings unless I mention it specifically. These 2 houses will each have 2 roofs. One of those roofs will be for resin printing. I was just mentioning auto-supports for FDM printers who insist on printing the Resin style roof. Small things like furniture will likely need auto-supports if you FDM print them . I wouldn't use more than 7% in those cases. Small things are typically designed for resin only in mind.
Looking absolutely awesome! :D Are your models presupported for FDM or do you need to generate supports in Cura?
Donald Titmus
Great. Love your buildings
Thanks for sharing Skullian:)
Skullian
@Neils warping mostly occurs when washing print with beyond warm water. Never stick large prints in a sonic cleaner and do not let them sit uncured for a long time. This is just the basics. There are a ton of supporting technics as it will warp while printing if they are not followed. Just to note there is give in the FMP film which is normal, that you will have to deal with because that alone will cause warping on large prints especially at an angle.
Thanks Justin, It has been a gradual thing over the last 6 months or so, I'm still trying to find that sweet spot. I guess I could do a couple simple polls to help with some direction on if the interest is there on medium resin terrain is there yet.
Justin Garza
I love that you're keeping both the resin and fdm makers in mind when designing your products. Really makes life easier.
Hi Steve, thanks for the Comment. The top levels are not too large though they are not designed for the small plates. The base foot print for one looks 120x110 and 116x170. Maybe I'll cut the second in half once for people. I guess a combo might be the best, I'll take a look at the Saturn, I hoped it would work out on the mid size plates.
Thanks for the comment Bil, I won't be abandoning FDM any time soon. The more complex version of the roofs will technically print FDM, It is just auto-support territory.
Thanks for the input Donald, yes they are designed to run FDM.
Thanks Niels, yes the resin cost is the final issue. There was a coversation on the discord a year ago about mixing some resin, I'll see if I can dig it up. I find with flat surfaces a 25-30 degree angle with a ton of supports, especially at the edges, seems to help. With a flat surface facing down. This size is new land for me as well.
Bil white
I'm a hobbyist with only an FDM printer. I don't have the place for a resin printer, nor the money for the resin. I think I'm the target audience? Resin printers are a dream away. And I don't see me updating my FDM for the latest/greatest FDM any time soon. I do wish you luck navigating all these issues.
Donald Titmus
Great buildings. I hope theses will run on FDM our Resin printers are not large format for terrain. I only use them for minis
Niels Kristensen
Really nice! I agree on the resin/FDM issue, even though I've not made the leap myself (for terrain that is - I run several resin printers for minis). The issue for me is finding a resin that's affordable enough for terrain but does not warp. Any insights on this anyone? :)
Steve Moss
Looking good. ππΌ Please donβt make them too big. Not everyone who prints terrain on a FDM printer uses the full build plate.
