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Defining Duke, Episode 175 | Beware Evil Villain Xbox... - Four Bethesda Studios SHUT DOWN!

🕑 Added 2024-05-09 16:00:16 +0000 UTC

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MeatSpin11

Y'all are being dicks to Cog. I get criticism, but that isn't what's in this thread. Most of you probably don't even listen to DD week in and week out and just come here to shit on the Dukes when negative Xbox news drops. Cog and Matty, it's a pleasure listening to you guys, keep it up.

Brian Comstock

Super disappointing to see cog go full “corporate cog” on this episode. Shit is ridiculous

Gooch Gobbler

Man if they shutter Doublefine, I'll be heartbroken. Honestly the best studio Microsoft has now imo

Bartevious

PC and handheld gaming will keep it alive. These consoles have been some ass lately.

Carter Evenson

I simply don’t believe starfield is anywhere near bethesdas most played game. Skyrim has sold over 60 million copies and has been on game pass for years

Bartevious

Agreed. I appreciate cogs opinion, so I won’t shit on him here in the slightest to be clear. I get the angle he’s coming from with the tango deal, but it’s not on devs to make sure games sell. That’s the marketing team. The devs job is to make a good game.

Seany Mac

Current xbox leadership has been in charge for over 40% of the brand's life and almost 20% of the life of the industry as a whole. How much more time do they need?

Remington Wilson

The pain when cog was reading about the new dishonored pitch ;(

Sindri

I really like Cog, but this was disappointing to listen to. I'm beyond tired of hearing about Microsoft's "plan" and how we need to keep waiting and believing in their plan. The cat has been out of the bag, there is no plan. They're a wildly greedy, money-hungry mega corporation with no belief in creativity and Game Pass has become a cancer to this industry.

Breno Bezerra Bluhm

While I appreciate Cog’s view I do think it’s kind of dishonest not to talk about consolidation the way we should. I remember back some episodes after the ABK closing deals and Cog was already so excited about prospects of other acquisitions and even talked about SEGA. I’m sorry Cog but if SEGA was acquired by Microsoft the gaming industry would be way worse because consolidation is NEVER good. Anyway, really liked the episode and Matt cooked with his opening monologue and Brad gave a great perspective of someone who is not necessarily too passionate about Xbox and gave the general public thoughts.

Chris Van Buren

This.

Chris Van Buren

At this point I can’t pour any more of my hard money into this ecosystem. I was a believer, bought ps5 and series x at launch, 3 years of gamepass, and I’ve only been disappointed. After they announced the 4 games coming to ps5, I pulled the plug on Xbox and officially bailed. At this point I’m in the “I’ll wait until it comes to PlayStation” camp.

Fotis Lyto

I don't know how much the board is forcing them, what I know is Phill and his lackeys had 10 years to provide something worthwhile and they have done nothing, just spending billions for acquisitions and now they start destroying the ones they acquired... Cog should be objective on looking at xbox but he can't, he is a super fan, I like him but that's the truth.

Stevie Q

Cog seems completely incapable of objectivity in regards to Microsoft

FuturaFoxx

Fun fact, right after this podcast, COG received a free invitation as a Microsoft executive.

NeO JD

A lot of comments on here hating on Cog but I think he’s right, as evidenced recently by the Ryan McCaffrey column. As bad as Xbox is doing, it’s looking like the board is forcing their hand now and the last thing you want is another Don Mattrick era. Be careful what you wish for indeed. #DDBrad

Aaron

If you don’t think a change would be worse you’re delusional. Sucks Bethesda had the studio closures and hifi rush is awesome but besides that it’s really much to do about nothing.

Drew

Disappointed with Cog’s way of thinking.

Christopher Hockett

I’m with you. A couple months ago when the games on PlayStation leaked, we were talking about a civil war within Xbox. Is Phil really running the show now or has Satya taken it over and they’re just using Phil as a figurehead because of the goodwill he built

Ealia Staroverov

He's certainly keeping the door open for himself.

lazer_josh

It's hard not to feel like the game industry is crumbling

Brett Altmiller

I’m very okay with not supporting Xbox anymore. Lack of games is the biggest reason for me but closing Tango is the shove I needed to follow through. My Series X has been packed up for some time now but I went ahead and sold it today. I really like a lot of the IP that Microsoft now holds but I have no faith in that company to do anything meaningful with them. I plan to stick around with the Dukes but as someone with a limited amount of time for video games I feel like my time and money are more respected elsewhere.

Frank G.

Oooooh a clockwork orange reference. Pretty dope.

Anthony Stewart

Up until this closure stuff. I had faith in Xbox now Imma play the wait and see.

Will Anderson

Cog is in denial😂

Kevin Miller

I'm just gonna say what nobody wants to say. COG Is a Xbox puppet. He's clearly biased

Philip Dunphy

I’m curious to understand why no one I’ve listened to has suggested that maybe Xbox execs no longer have their hands on the wheel. Is it possible Microsoft is strongly pushing their thumb on the scale? Thank you COG for pointing out the hard (and sad) facts.

Eric Golley

Horizon 5 undoubtedly meets that quality bar. That being said, there's only that one that comes to mind. It's also worth mentioning that I don't think that's their goal or strategy. What do you mean when you say "Quality"? Surely isn't not lack of bugs? Graphics? Scale?

Michael Mashpotato

R.I.P Tango. You will be missed. I haven’t turned on my Series X since Psychonauts 2. I bought Hifi on my Steam Deck and played Ghostwire on my PS5. Despite having a PS4, my Xbox One was my primary console last generation. I sold my GameCube for a Xbox 360 before that and for two generations Microsoft had me

Gray Gordon

Did we think the Dukes will comment on the awful Sarah Bond Bloomberg interview?

Vanzant

Xbox has not created a single game this generation that rivals the quality of a Sony exclusive. Gameplay wise, I’m not a fan of Sonys exclusives this gen but you can’t deny the production and quality. Xbox couldn’t at least deliver that for their two biggest titles, Forza and Halo. That’s not board problem. That’s a management problem, a Phil Spencer problem.

ajwhite

Cog is smoking the copium hard on this one. Still love ya!

Reuben Barrett

How Spencer and co are still in power is mind boggling. They haven't managed to produce basically any games. I'd get rid of them abd get Shawn Layden, Yoshida and hell maybe even... Bobby K. Can't even imagine how many more games we'd have already if they were running the show.

Kojima Made Me Gay

I fucking love Brad

John Carroll

I don’t understand not wanting to change the leadership at Xbox. They’ve failed and the good things that you could argue that they’ve done, anyone of us in this thread could do with the financial backing that Microsoft has given them. With 10s of billions of dollars of outside money at your disposal you should be able to leave the competition dead and buried. Given virtually unlimited money, they’ve bought studios, given the games away on a sub for peanuts, and paid to get a few Japanese games on the platform. Would a child have done any worse?

Sock Cuckers

Does Cog work for Microsoft?

Grimm Carousel

Cogs invite to the next power breakfast confirmed.

A Hind D

COG cmon man; doesn’t matter they have to get leadership outta there. Y’all laughed at Jim Ryan but that robot fit an esculent job in a wild time for the world and that guy can’t even hold a controller correctly. Shake it up imo

Adam Barnes

Fffiiinnnneee. I’ll add them to my backlog 😭

Jared R

Doublefine is another example of a studio that would have been shuttered had it not been acquired. I think that Microsoft/Xbox has fundamentally mismanaged their studios, but I agree with Cog that many of them are living on gifted time as it is. The only shame, perhaps, is that someone who would have managed them better didn’t buy them. But who would that even have been when it comes to Bethesda or ABK? It’s a shit show all around.

CUMSoftware

“Halo Infinite had a resurgence and is fixed”

Jared R

Fingers crossed that he becomes full-time eventually.. if that’s something he’d want.

Yiorgos

Folks, play the Dishonored series and play Prey. Amazing stuff. Prey has one of the best DLCs in Mooncrash. Such a shame Arkane Austin had to get the axe, worried about Arkane Lyon

Adam Barnes

Also, how Matty pronounced c’est la vie was fucking hilarious

Adam Barnes

Absolutely top tier username

Adam Barnes

Surely it’s clear to everyone now that Microsoft doesn’t belong in gaming.

Cody Mahoney

What games are we waiting to see still? Can’t believe the management is still running things.

PluuusRyan

Really appreciating Brad’s willingness (indeed, enthusiasm!) to drop by other shows with some regularity, even beyond Stelly and SS+. Continues to have solid takes and great chemistry with the group.

ByWatterson

Corporate Cog appearing in even this episode is stunning. It's also objectively funny that he is still singing the "when these games hit" song. Dude. It's TWENTY-TWENTY-FOUR.

Daniel

Brad episodes are the best. He really balanced things out.

My most hated race is the 400m dash

I’m sure the devs without jobs really care about that distinction

My most hated race is the 400m dash

Yeah I must have missed Colin predicting the closure of Tango

Have you considered considering considerations considerately considerate

Brad is the gift that keeps on giving. Also great show Matty and Cog. It sucks but tango could’ve been closed down years ago. It hurts extra because Hifi rush was my favorite game that year

Bogey

That Matty and Brad chemistry was not one I saw coming and I’m here for it. Y’all are great together.

Jacob Lesperance

Booty and Phil couldn't manage 5 studios. How did people think they could manage 35?

Jordan Falduto

Support class Brad Ellis has entered the building. We ready to hit the raid boss XboxP3 now.

Andrew Long

Brads point about Gamepass for one month to play Hellblade is exactly what I did for Starfield. The Gamepass model leaves too much money on the table

MeatSpin11

Brad on 3 shows in 4 days?! Hell yeah!!

Zac

#DDBrad #ColinWasRight

Adam Barnes

They closed Tango??? Fucking TANGO?! Xbox cannot be saved. Microsoft is run by absolute retards.

My most hated race is the 400m dash

At least I have time to 100% the wall in Hi-Fi Rush now 😔. RIP Tango

Ealia Staroverov

Can someone please educate me? I always assumed Forza Horizon used Turn 10 car assets. That would mean you can't shut down Turn 10 if you want to keep making Horizon games, right?

Zachary

I’m your prom date you ugly pos, you don’t like that? No… 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Whitewinwolf

“How did Matt booty not get the …boot… yet?”

Nick DeHeve

I’d take cog a little more seriously if he could pronounce frustration properly.

Jose Horrach

Hello! I'm excited to be here

Otacon_Ocelot

Remember when Jim Ryan stood up and yelled “im not here to get a deal for call of duty im here to block your merger” the bots made fun of that man. Now look at ya