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Sacred Symbols+, Episode 373 | Reflecting on Final Fantasy VII Remake
🕑 Added 2024-03-28 01:11:11 +0000 UTCIt's me, Colin. This episode was originally supposed to be a KnockBack; or, I should say, I replayed FFVIIR in preparation for that particular show. And maybe I over-prepared a bit, with 10 pages of typed notes amounting to 3,900 words. But here's the thing: Dagan doesn't have time to finish the game because he picked up a new animation gig, and yet, I don't want my unnecessarily thorough preparation to go to waste. So instead of KnockBack this week, you're getting a second Sacred+ episode, and I drafted three fellow Final Fantasy nerds to assist me. As such, please welcome Summon Sign's Brad Ellis, Punching Up's Gene Park, and LSM legal analyst Rick Hoeg for a three-plus hour convo all about 2020's Final Fantasy VII Remake. I'm now finally prepared to play Rebirth! (Please note: This podcast heavily spoils the original Final Fantasy VII, Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus, Advent Children, and Remake itself. It DOES NOT spoil Rebirth, which I [Colin] haven't even played at the time we're recording.)
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Glen Yelenovic
After hearing this I am more than happy to wait as long as needed for Colin to be on the eventual Rebirth spoilers cast. Don’t rush it out before he is finished
TheMuff1nMon
They already called Crisis Core Reunion
Bailey Callis
This was incredible. Please don't stop/bring back spoilercasts!
NecrumOddBoy
It’s so interesting to listen to this haven’t played both remake and rebirth. Kind of makes you wanna yell out at certain parts. I do hope the rebirth spoiler cast does a mini reflection where context is put into place and more into understanding. Awesome episode and I’m glad that Colin still got to do this!
Jeece
Dynamite Dark Tower comparison
Anthony Palerino
Man Yuffie is so fun gameplay wise, but I can’t stand her character. Through the original game and Yakuza Like a Dragon, I’ve gotten a lot more used to the anime style of games, but wow Yuffie pushes it too far that she’s so grating every time she’s on screen. Fort Condor is fire tho
Travis Martin
10$ says third part is called reunion
Johnny Boles
Final Fantasy 7 Re:Make Final Fantasy 7 Re:Birth Final Fantasy 7 After:Birth…
Shortsoptional
Might be my most favorite episode ever. Great discussion and great cast.
Caleb Peacock
The plat was really fun Colin. Remake has one of the best hard modes in the business imo since it forces you to be an expert with the materia and level them up completely. It was fun managing mp and doing the harder sections of the story like the end of chapter…16? With the 3 boss fights in a row. I do think it’s too hard for you though, as the combat trials on hard are REALLY hard and I think the difficulty rating underestimates it bad. I platted returnal for example and thought it was really easy, beat a lot of biomes 1st try. Can easily do titanfall2 trial run. Really struggled with the combat challenge, and specifically just 1 part. Just want to warn you as someone who thinks they’re getting too old for some of these sweatier challenges
Zackery Parkerson
He made what amounts to a 20 second aside about it. Nothing to get worked up over.
Zackery Parkerson
Final Fantasy VII: Revival
NeO JD
Agree with others that this was a solid ep. Would love to see you guys run it back for Rebirth. That game is gonna be an interesting one to discuss.
NeO JD
He can’t help himself! 😄
NeO JD
Congrats
Oliver Johnson
This is such perfect timing for me. My daughter was just born so I’ve been slowly making my way through replaying the original FF7, Remake, and finally getting to the Crisis Core remake. I’m glad to there’s a podcast out there that’s going at the pace I am right now. I’m so hyped for Rebirth as I’m listening to this with a sleeping baby in my arms.
The Rose Experience
Max Prayer material is a must, I personally loved it but like you said, you’re going to get stomped on certain bosses unless you’re into the game
Bogey
Colin I think you might be underestimating the Hard Mode. It’s not the type of hard mode you can just revisit later down the line. It’s balanced in a way that you need to be very familiar with the games mechanics and have your party maxed out and grinding out max materias. It’s basically this game’s endgame. No healing items and no way to restore MP until the end of the chapter. Makes the game pretty tough but VERY rewarding.
The Rose Experience
The combat changes are incredible
The Rose Experience
Listening to Hoeg again blather on how this game is misrepresentative based on the title and that could account to something legal is so fucking tiresome. Remake doesn’t necessarily mean literal remake, my father in Christ
Ryan Harvey
This was my favorite spoiler cast yet
GameSimp
“Spoilin’ Gene” is crazy 😂
Sock Cuckers
What an absolute banger.
Gray Gordon
Great group and great episode! Do we think Colin watched Ryan McCaffrey’s Judas preview? Cause Hol-Lee-Shit!!!
PapaPTSD_1776
Colin should clean out his friends list so that active users can join, his friends list is full of accounts that have been offline for 5 years or more
Your Boi Nicky V
Awesome lineup of people, great episode
Stephen King
Colin, I have listened to thousands of hours of podcasts that you've been on over the years...and this is amongst my favorite 3+ hours of podcasting you've done. If you are able to, please try to follow up with another podcast with the same group, or as much of it as possible, once you finish Rebirth.
Philip Dunphy
I love that they called this game Remake and did what they did. Whether you like it or not the game oozes with confidence and when I was surprised on my first play through I bought in immediately. The Square Enix Knights of the Round Table are on a mission and I’m here for it.
Jamie Anderson
How often do men think about nazi Germany is the new Roman empire
FormidableFungus
Can't get enough of Hoeg! Awesome to hear his takes on video games. Great episode!
Yalingo
The entire plot was a brisk 40 hours in FF7. Remake is an alt timeline sequel that's expanded to include a tonne more depth at the expense of pacing. If you don't understand what's even happening or why it matters then either dive into the original and the compilation material or just don't worry about it if it's not for you.
Yalingo
Challenge to Colin: Go one episode without mentioning Nazi Germany or Hilter. Failed within minutes here as usual 😅
Shadi Haddad
Brad would be a great substitute on Punching Up and Sacred Symbols when Dustin takes that time off.
Jamie Anderson
Pretentious the game.. Every scene of the big bad is him side eyeing the camera and saying, im waiting cloud. Two games in and yet to see why this is considered one of the greatest stories in gaming. Might get hate for this but FF16 puts these two remakes to shame in every single way. I will say barret is the only great character in my opinion the rest are meh.
Bogey
Colin starting the show off by telling Brad how impressed he was by him on the live show gave me the warm fuzzies
Jordan
😂😂😂
HORSE the Patron
This is one of those games where of the half dozen friends of mine I regularly talk to who were big fans of the original only one of them really enjoyed it as opposed to the near universal praise I read for it online, to the point I am often asking myself if we played the same game. Turned most of us off from playing the rest of the new series. Mostly due to combat and most but not all story changes.
Michael Welter
A welcome surprise!
Andres
Extremely disappointed to find out Dagan isn't on this. I was so excited when you said the two of you would be doing this for Knockback. I even commented on the original FF7Remake spoilercast years back wishing for the Knockback episode on it.
Fat Gotenks
I listened at 2x speed and skipped everything Dustin said.
Austin Clemence
Would love to still hear Dagan’s thoughts when the time is right!
Kazden Risk
This is the greatest thing. I played the original Final Fantasy 7 in January and Remake through February and experiencing the original first was the best decision. Now I’m a huge fan and am excited to get to Rebirth. Hyped to listen to this as I get the final Remake trophies!
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Aweeeee yeahhhhhh
Doro Akechi
I came twice tonight. And my GF still at work
LevelWiley
Lets gooooo
Tom Gentry
Ohhhhh baby what a treat this episode is. Shadow drop 3.5 hour banger. Can’t wait to see what the heck you’ll have to say about rebirth when you finally get to it
