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Defining Duke, Episode 184 | The Xbox Game Pass Squeeze FINALLY Happened...

🕑 Added 2024-07-11 16:00:11 +0000 UTC

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Misko 1023

Xbox is dead in the water. Moving all their shit to PS5 Makes owning an Xbox almost completely worthless. Especially with gamepass on everything now. Why even own an Xbox unless ur a humongous fan of them… 🤷

David P

This was a great episode, good insight in the questions too

MrFreundly

Speaking for (most likely) the silent majority, we appreciate what you do Matty and Cog. Part of the value LSM brings is more perspectives in different areas on the gaming industry. If you’re feeling down just know at least one Patron really appreciates you guys.

MrFreundly

Definitely worth mentioning. I’d love to see Xbox to do the same with Game Pass Ultimate. I’d like a set it and forget it option with Game Pass.

Mr. Scott If You're Nasty

If you buy 3 new games a year, it's worth it (75 for annual core plus 210 [70x3]). 3, to me, is not an insane amount of games.

Marko Krnic

When Cog was making the comparison with PS tiers and prices, I think what needs to be mentioned is that PlayStation offers a yearly subscription for a discount, Premium is $160/yr which ends up being $13.33/month.

Chris Van Buren

It’s a good value if you play an insane amount of games, or you really like what’s on gamepass. I had gamepass after stacking three years but didn’t renew after it expired. Even with the savings of stacking, I still would have saved money by just buying the games I did play.

Jacob Lesperance

You'd be surprised how dumb people are, lol. And this is just for th one game argument. I get it if you're playing new games none stop.

ByWatterson

I really don't understand how you guys can't see that even the dumbest consumer isn't going to spend $240 per year to rent a $70 title. The Game Pass changes are clearly signaling a gradual walkaway from day one games.

Lou & Rei Loper

Isn't the point of a game console, so that they can get the software in your house? If they have multiple means of now getting that software into your house...why do they NEEEEEEEEEED you to buy a console? They don't, sure it'd be nice, but I bet a shit ton of people would rather buy a $50-60 dongle instead of a $200-500 console to play the same game. Is it just a 'this is how things have always been done' kinda thing? That doesn't always make sense.

Lou & Rei Loper

Agreed

Jacob Lesperance

I don't believe xbox is launching a console early. Why would they have commercials and all their marketing blast how no console is required and then release a console? Lol that makes no sense.

Jacob Lesperance

Did Matty just say PS5 has been bn dry. Regardless of first party they have made sure to have an exclusive lineup. Xbox launched with no games for the console for almost 2 years Ps5 launched window- Demon Souls Miles Morales Returnal Sackboy. This last year alone. Rise of Ronin Rebirth Stellar blade HellDivers2 Pacific Drive AstroBot SilentHill2.

Seany Mac

The Dragon Age romance segment was pure gold. "YOU IN THE REALM OF THE DUKES YOU BETTER GET DOWN!"

Manuel Nascimento

Game Pass main value is about playing multiple games in the subscription. It was true before, it is still true with the higher prices. If you play just 1 game each month, the sub price is probably cheaper than buying the game. If you play 2 games it's a no-brainer. I don't understand the argument "is it time to start buying games again?". I played Senua's Saga and A Plague Tale Requiem (for instance) at launch, by paying my sub that month, instead of 50 usd. I did not spend 100usd to play them, i spent way less.... With new prices that is 40usd for 2 months of GPU and 24usd for GP PC - still saving LOTS of money... You can also dip in and out of the sub if you find yourself not using it that much. Of course, nobody likes price increases, but compared to buying games the value on cost is still there.

Your Boi Nicky V

So it was 'Matt's Booty is rank but I'll still gobble up those sweet, sweet man titties' - Matty did us dirty

NeO JD

Yo that Danganronpa pic was wild. 😅 “You in the realm of the Dukes, you better get down!” Lmao I don’t think we’ll see a Hellblade 3. I’ll take it a step further, you guys hyped up Ninja Theory way too much here. Of course it’s going to look good when there’s barely any gameplay. I think if their next game doesn’t hit, they’re gone. #PayUPDD

Caleb Peacock

Release the Nicky V cut

Ealia Staroverov

I'm a bit confused by what the Dukes are saying. Console GP growth has stalled and MS is looking to entice more users on PC. I understand it's a better deal than on console and I understand that COD will be there. I just don't understand how many users there are that weren't interested at $10, but now are going to jump onboard for COD at $12. So someone had to be not interested in all the great games on the service, but now they're going to subscribe instead of just buying the game for the equivalent of 5 months of GP?

Ealia Staroverov

Kinda sorta correction. Matty talked about still being able to download PS3 games after the store shutdown. That is true, but the decision was reversed and the PS3 store is still up and running.

Lou & Rei Loper

I completely agree, I did a quick Google search for "game pass" and the headlines and posts out there are just ridiculous. First people complain that it's stupid, then they complain that it's unsustainable at the price, then it gets an increase, then they complain the price went up, new things get added, they still complain it's unsustainable, they complain again that the price went up. Good grief haha.

Diddy’s Dong Quest

I feel like the tiers of Gamepass with day one games would STILL be worth it around 40 bucks. A new game is 60, plus think of the huge library just sitting there. It just depends on how much you play.