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Sacred Symbols+, #417 | How Could Donald Trump's Return Affect the Games Industry?

🕑 Added 2024-11-09 17:00:09 +0000 UTC

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Marco Maluf

I live in shit hole brazil, besides our corrupt government making us pay a lot of taxes, and never returning it properly to us, our last president passes a bill to gradually reduce electronics taxes and video games included. the cost of a console here is the US price x10 the result is the sale price in our currency, and the minimum wage here is around 1412,00 (2024)

Halph Pint

Lmao it’s hilarious that Colin and Hoeg actually gave our special needs president the benefit of doubt and assumed he’d have a nuanced tariff plan…”He wouldn’t put tariffs on PS5’s, we don’t make those!” Turns out it’s blanket tariffs…which anyone who paid attention to this dipshits first term knew it would be. But hey, eggs probably won’t go up! 🙄

Tyler

Yes very scared

Bailey Callis

Grown ass men scared of conservatives 😂

Nicole M

Wow, hearing about Hoegs medical bills is nuts! I am grateful that l live in Canada and we have (for the most part) universal healthcare. The Healthcare system here is by no means perfect but people can have the peace of mind that when they go to the hospital, they will not be billed up the wazoo.

SirJoseph_iv

Make your own show then and tell us all your brilliant ideas bro

SirJoseph_iv

I thought it was only ppl in my mom’s demographic (old ass ladies) who believed that nonsense.

Hose A Contra Razz

Project 25 was not real you fell for the media and Kamala’s lies

Glen Yelenovic

I am a fan of Hoeg

The Rose Experience

The feeling is mutual, you come off as entirely ignorant of everything America voted on and have issues with. You also used cringe so you’re like 15, you don’t know shit.

Scott

You’re literally the crying woah jack with the smiling mask on for a whole week

Tanner Denso

I’ve heard on job sites from the union guys that the union leaders got booed out of the halls for promoting Harris.

Gooch Gobbler

There are always huge barrels of money for everything but the common people.....

Tazmaniandevil

Cause the last four years were so great right? lol

Wesley

Enjoyed the discussion. Great to see Colin touching on the insanity that is going around in terms of trans in sports, as well as the blatant corruption in the media.

biki minhas

Wait, what? Ben's gone?where ya'll hear this?

Hustle&Motiv8

Same here.

Aaron

Going to be a rough 4 years that’s for sure.

Yalingo

You're also espousing pro big business rhetoric. If the country had unfilled jobs, rather than unemployment wages would become a competition point and this is the driving factor behind immigration and deregulation, which both parties support.

Tyler

Exactly. The price of your cheeseburger went up far more than inflation. That’s why corporations are seeing record profits. They saw an opportunity to blame someone else for the cost of goods increasing.

Tyler

I’m a big time lefty soy boy and it’s been a very stressful few days. I just want to say I really appreciate you guys doing this. It certainly helps put some things into perspective, even if I don’t feel entirely convinced he’s not going to put Project 2025 into motion. But really, thank you Colin.

Wayde

Yeah it was hard to listen to. Also Hoeg should have corrected him multiple times if he truly was an econ major. I have a mecon and I groaned multiple times.

Rufián

Colin mentioned Bitcoin. It's at 80k, and just getting started. Orange man good, orange coin good. ~90k by end of year. ~200k by holidays 2025. America's digital gold.

Cyprus Davis

Trump the goat 🫡🇺🇸

Molly Bittner

I really appreciate the intro to this pod. No particular ideology, just useful information. Thank you for this!

MomsLikeMe

Who are you even talking about? I only see your opinions on topics you’re not in a position to talk about authoritatively, or even intelligently. The only other opinion in this thread is that you’re being annoying.

Nick Vieu

I’m not over emotional lmao it’s just infuriating that people who have no idea what they’re talking about seem to have a lot of opinions on it.

Scott

You’re getting insulted because youre very clearly over emotional

Nick Vieu

No I think people just don’t want to face any facts. I’m not tapped into some great ever present truth where people need to come to me to for what’s “really” happening. The current inflation rate is readily available for everyone. Google it. The unemployment number is readily available as well. People just ignore it, spin up stories in their head that fulfill their ideal story, and run with it. I present them the truth, that’s an easy google search away, and immediately they insult. It’s not complicated.

MomsLikeMe

People jump to insults because you’re being a tosser in a Patreon comments section. You’re coming across as callow, uneducated, and obstinate. That is literally the last person any sane individual would want to engage with in meaningful discourse.

Cameron

Shout out to Romancing Saga 2's remake. Its quite good.

Caesar

It’s always interesting listening to an American’s views on tariffs as I’m an Australian. Global tariffs have been contentious since our federation in 1901 so when others discuss it, I try to pay attention. Our primary exports though are iron ore, natural gas, coal, education services and gold. It always seemed as though Aus’ success as a nation has depended on how we interact with our neighbours and allies. Will be interesting to see how Trump’s policies will affect us here.

Jared R

They literally said your second point at the end of the episode

Nick Vieu

None of you have anything to say on it cause you have no idea what you’re talking about. Everyone jumps to insults bc you have no argument.

Dante B

Glad “debate me!” bro has entered the chat.

Gabriel Baker

On my way to the hospital, thanks asshole

Scott

Yeah the average American can’t afford a 400& emergency so you really can’t be surprised that killing unborn babies and respecting pronouns wasn’t top of the priority list when heading to the polls, RED TSUNAMI !

Nick Vieu

He probably puts Dawn dish soap in the dish washer too.

Nick Vieu

I feel like you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about in any regard of politics. And I’m happy to debate you on any of it.

Nick Vieu

I’m talking about the average American. This isn’t complicated to understand.

The Rose Experience

Colin has forgotten more about politics than you’ll likely ever know. Sorry.

The Rose Experience

Let me know some consistent modern examples of Deflation of integral items, I’ll wait.

Scott

If you can’t afford a 400$ emergency I don’t think we should be listening to anything you have to say.if I were you I’d get off here and go work some more hours or something

Jake Nunley

Jd vance puts his cast iron skillet in the dish washer

Nick Vieu

Hearing Colin talk about politics when he knows basically nothing is cringe. You would rather have people working and paying more? First of all, unemployment is at record lows right now, arguably too low. Secondly, I’m sure you wouldn’t mind if products were more since you’re a rich business owner. The rest of us can’t afford a $400 emergency. Your hard on for patriotism and “bring the businesses back” mentality doesn’t help the American politics, all it does is strike your ego that “America reigns”. Also, wtf are we talking about when it comes to inflation? Inflation IS down. Biden passed the inflation reduction act and as of right now, inflation is at 2.1%.

Wayde

Lol if only

Wayde

Hope for the best prepare for the worst. Just hoping the majority is right

Wayde

MAWA

Wayde

Collin the US economy is fine. You are paying more because of corporate greed. The economy being good or bad has little to do with your over priced cheeseburger. There is a reason these companies are seeing record profits. Also prices can go down it's called deflation and if that happens we have entered a massive recession.

Robbie Agnew

Michael McCoy

seriously 🤣

DigitalGameMunkey

Don’t get me wrong, we definitely didn’t do everything right: the wishy washy comms (which could be inherent to trying to be transparent with evolving science), not having enough domestic production (which wasn’t there during trump either), and business taking advantage of the stimulus’s (hopefully who are now being punished). Sorry about this, just feel like this stuff isn’t brought up enough about inflation

DigitalGameMunkey

Also you can look at other countries post Covid and they suffered just as much with inflation, some more and some only in specific markets

DigitalGameMunkey

People weren’t working and didn’t have that money pile to help support them, thus less people spending and more govt intervention/help to maintain the economy. The only other example we have is Spanish flu inflation, but that was also paired with the end of ww1 so it’s harder to make a fair comparison.

DigitalGameMunkey

Yeah what do you think happened in 2020 that caused that rise in inflation and who do you think was responsible for it steadily lowering?

Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE

Reasonable mines can dig-fer

Dante B

Are we taking a shot every time Hoge says reasonable minds can differ or what

Owen S

Reasonable minds can what!?!?!?

Light The Idea

I’d really like to PS+ shows as 2 a week again. They allowed bandwidth for a missable episode

Adam Barnes

#justiceforben

GameSimp

0.25% is 25bps, not 1bp

peanutbutterloveer

just wait til the constellation episode on monday, assuming its about the election lol

Haru Discourse

Love the thumbnail

Scott

I bet 1500$ on a Trump victory and cashed out my winning to buy my ps5 pro :)

Froilan

He’ll be fine. He’s been through worse on Twitter and half of it is him trolling people

Michael Rogers

Colin- By the time the economy effects me, you'll all be dead. I'm so sad!

Matthew Cooper

I was actually confident in a Trump victory the whole time. I don't find it surprising. Trump has basically been campaigning for 2 straight years with almost no real Republican competition. The Dems started with Biden and then staged a coup within their own party after he, basically, died on stage during the first debate. They installed Harris as the nominee at the last minute with no primary process. Harris was a super weak candidate who dropped out of the 2020 race at the very beginning because she was unpopular. If Biden had decided from the beginning not to run again and the Dems had a proper primary process, they could have had a real chance with a strong nominee.

Michael Jacobson

Great discussion. I'm not a fan of talking about tamping down government spending by cutting Medicare and Social Security. There are other ways to cut spending that aren't talked about by "defecit hawks". There are other ways to raise funds that won't impact the lives of average Americans. We've been conditioned to think this is what has to happen.

drew

Hey Colin, hope you read this or someone brings it to your attention. I'm disappointed Ben is leaving not sure how much you were paying him the last few years and how he paid his bills,but just keep paying him the same and let him be on more episodes. Ben is great for LSM. Sort it out

Jab Bab Kab

Regardless of the election outcome, I'm really glad there is an outlet like Last Stand Media in the gaming space that is able to discuss the impact of the election thoughtfully and respectfully. Thank you Colin and Hoeg!

easelgames

R.E.S.P.E.C.T.

The Rose Experience

Great again! Only way to go is up

Paul Waltz

I supported the Harris/Walz ticket and am disappointed by the Trump win, but the people have spoken. Very excited to listen to this episode as we all continue forward.

Diddy’s Dong Quest

I’m heating up popcorn as we speak!

Plombus bombus

I’m sure the comments on this thread will be very fair and reasonable lol

Rufián

Donald J. Trump - the eagle of America. Making Gaming Great Again. No more trans simulators. Woke gamers in shambles. We're back boys! 🇺🇸

Breno Bezerra Bluhm

That’s all I care about. But I hope he didn’t see the comment session of yesterday’s SS here on Patreon cause that was such a parassocial shitshow by some mentally unstable people that I don’t know how the fuck he’ll be comfortable in this community lmao