Sacred Symbols, Episode 328 | 12th Time's A Charm
🕑 Added 2024-10-11 16:00:13 +0000 UTCThe long-awaited remake of Silent Hill 2 has finally arrived on PlayStation 5, and it's a hit. Players around the world are loving it, providing audiences with the very first acclaimed title from Polish studio Bloober Team. Indeed, many (including some on this show) questioned whether these guys were even up to the task, and reasonably so: Bloober's average Metacritic score across 11 previous PlayStation releases is a 65. But it's here, it's great, and we're excited to talk about it, along with other horror-themed fare in the form of Until Dawn Remake, too. Other news this week includes rumblings of a potential Concord F2P comeback, Ubisoft possibly being taken private, SEGA's surprise announcement of Alien: Isolation 2, the delisting of LittleBigPlanet 3 from the PSN, and more. Then: Listener inquiries! Are scalpers merely serving a necessary purpose on the free market? Should everyone cut Assassin's Creed: Shadows a little bit of slack? Has Atlus overcome Square Enix as the industry's most prolific JRPG publisher? Will the New York Jets ever stop ruining Colin's life?
Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:06:04 - Hurricane Milton
00:28:39 - Live shows
00:35:25 - Mark Cerny Panic
00:38:56 - The Torvee Tea Party
00:41:11 - Weekly Jets diatribe
00:52:20 - Horizon's pricing
01:02:39 - Concord might be coming back
01:06:32 - Detroit Become Human surpasses 10 mil
01:10:52 - Will Ubisoft go private?
01:18:43 - SEGA and Universal's Shinobi film
01:21:17 - Until Dawn wraps filming
01:29:40 - What We Are Playing
02:00:53 - Alien Isolation gets a sequel
02:07:10 - Little Big Planet goes offline
02:14:18 - Sony Sales Data
02:17:18 - PS+ games
02:21:50 - How would a MGS1 Remake work?
02:28:25 - Nick's a dirty scalper
02:35:39 - Asscreed VS Yotei
02:45:35 - Last Gen lives forever
02:52:39 - The rewind feature in classic games
02:56:08 - What's the premier JRPG company?
Comments
Tyler Lindbeck
Chris Mg1 runs good in collection. Playing it now.
YP-Berserk
Unless it’s a remaster of the one game people want
YP-Berserk
We would be better off with Ubisoft just going away
Brandon V
Oh it’s definitely me being a dickhead, because it annoys dickheads like you, but I was still referencing “Colin was right” you stupid asshole
Daddy T
“Brandon right once again” is not referring to Colin was right, it’s just you being a dickhead
Brandon V
Ok buddy, it’s pretty fucking obvious I was. Been listening to Colin since Beyond!, I’ve heard “Colin was right” a million times.
Luke Trewarne
Alien isolation was in the games catalogue
Luke Trewarne
It's called a bullbar, not a roobar lol
Daddy T
That’s not what you were referencing Brandon and we all know it lol
Michael Joseph Darcy
The mental gymnastics from Nick is wild. You aren’t a middle-man. You are an unethical scumbag.
Supes
the Thomas Sowell essay he referenced also has virtually nothing to do with his point, it's an examination of minorities throughout history as a way to understand that discrimination against "middleman" groups (most famously Jewish populations who have historically played roles as brokers/moneylenders/etc) is a common thread in many different cultures around the world. It is not at *all* a defense of scalping—that's a complete non sequitur and made me 100% roll my eyes. Basically came off like referencing an essay to try and sound smart.
Joey
Middle men are for things that are impractical to get. I'm not going to the forests of canada to get lumber to build my house. I'll go to lowes who is basically the middle man, and I'll pay them for the convenience. Nick is the dickhead who bought all the lumber from lowes and is standing outside selling it at a mark up.
Brannon H
Man that Nick guy can get fucked. You're not a middle man for the common man. You're taking something and making it only available for a premium, thus preventing middle and lower class people from getting it. Absolute scum.
Kid-Organic
With regards to Shinobi, there was a DS game in 2011, it’s ‘meh’, but don’t sleep on the Genesis version of Shadow Dancer, the chiptunes alone make it a must play!
Brandon V
That’s clearly what I was referencing.
Lawson72
You do not sync trophies on PS4/PS5 manually, period. There is no triggering it faster.
Cornelius
Just to make a point about the state of PlayStation publishing. Sony has published 10 PS5 exclusive games of any consequence in the life cycle of the console. In that time they've published 9 remakes or remasters. And all these of PS4 games that are easily accessible. I know it's easy money, but yeah, I would trade the 9 remasters and remakes of games that already run at 60fps on PS5, for even one Sony first party game
Bailey Callis
If only I could just get a dollar for everytime Colin mentions that Ubisoft employs more people than Playstation 1st party.
Faan
Colin is more sincere with Ubisoft considering he likes Far Cry a lot and The Division. Outlaws just looks so rushed and lifeless. If this had a more mature tone like Andor, I could've looked past the generic gameplay
Faan
It's ridiculous because most games that Colin plays now are 3rd party. And when you compare it to the PS4 era, this is ridiculous. 2013 - KZ: Shadowfall. 2014 - Infamous Second Son and First Light, and TLOU Remastered 2015 - The Order and Nathan Drake Collection, 2016 - Uncharted 4, 2017 - Horizon Zero Dawn and Lost Legacy, 2018 - Spider-Man, God of War, Detroit, 2019 - Days Gone and Death Stranding, 2020 - TLOU 2, GoT, Miles Morales, and Demon's Souls remake (what a banger year). We were getting 2 exclusives a year in the PS4 gen. Now? We'd be lucky to get 1. 2021 had Returnal AND Ratchet, 2022 had Horizon FW, God of War, and TLOU 1 Remake, and last year had Spider-man 2. This year we had Astro Bot and Rise of the Ronin (although that's more a second party). I just feel like we're getting either more niche 1st party major releases (returnal and rise of the ronin) and remakes (TLOU 1 Remake, TLOU 2 Remaster, Horizon Remaster, Spider-Man Remaster). Idk, but I just prefer Ps4 gen. Also a shame about the sh*t turnout of Sony's Live Service games. Really wanted TLOU online, would've made so much money for Sony. Oh well.
Faan
Yeah that kinda sucks considering the low sales of Sonic games around the same time Alien Isolation came out. Wish that got a PS5 port or an update. Happy that Creative Assembly is back but who knows if it'll be good considering that a lot of the talent from that game is long gone.
Faan
Re: the Hurricane discussion, the major hurricane in the Northeast of recent memory was Hurricane Sandy in late 2012. Irene was a tropical storm and was weakened when it hit the tri state area. It was bad. But Sandy completed f*cked up the tri state area, Jersey Shore, NH, Connecticut, LI, you name it. Surprised Chris didn't catch that - but idk if he lived in NY then.
Faan
Considering that Colin used do "Colin was Right" moments (he even had a short lived show on KF called "A Conversation with Colin was Right" lmao) I think this could be interpreted as a meta joke. Even tho it probably isn't. Who cares lol.
Faan
Lmao I only know Joplin because the female lead character from the HBO Show "Barry" with Bill Hader is from Joplin and makes a show called Joplin
Justin Marxer
“If you have a problem with Canadian gooses you have a problem with me and I suggest you let that marinate” -Wayne, Letterkenny
Mavizzle
Happy 40th Colin!
Gooch Gobbler
Republicans love saying "but why are you mad? it's legal or allowed" without realizing that's the reason the law or guideline should be changed lol
Gooch Gobbler
"THERE ARE SO MANY GAMES TO PLAY" Respectfully, it probably feels like it when you spend so much time playing multiple versions of mid games and doing busy work for trophies.......
The Rose Experience
Yet so many third parties either aren’t making it, come later, or are completely messed up.
Alastair Abela
Hey Nick! Sincerely, get absolutely fucked.
Cormac
Nick Francis. You are an absolute scumbag.
Caleb Peacock
Idk maybe you shouldn’t scalp 6 ps5s, but I always thought it was unhinged how gamers react to scalpers. You can tell they’re seething through the keyboard like that guy ran over their dog personally.
Cormac
I’m all for trophies but getting both versions especially when one is poor is crazy🤣 Why would you replay a game that you don’t even think is great that much?
ajwhite
He's like a mule from death stranding, but for trophies. Lol
Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE
I mean, that would definitely be his kinda guy. lol
Cormac
Colin did I just hear you say you want to platinum Until Dawn PS4 AND PS5 version? Dude… why?!
D-Dayjackson
Excited that sparking zero is great. When I get done with this damn deployment I’m definitely picking it up
NeO JD
Mark Cerny doesn’t panic. lol
Jimmy G
Let’s be honest, using a trophy guide is basically having someone else learn a game for you. People should play however they want, but with save scumming at least you’re learning how to finish a game by yourself.
MarkGrouch
Bro bringing up Thomas Sowell to defend PS5 scalping lmfaooo
Xemphanis
Complaining about people getting trophies for using rewind or save states from people that openly use guides to solve puzzles and get platinums is really not very self aware. I recently beat most of the games in the Castlevania Classic Collection and I save scummed like crazy because I don’t have the time to start all over every time I suffer a cheep death. I just wanted to play games I didn’t own as a kid.
Joseph Gedgaudas
They keep referring to Star Wars Outlaws as probably good without playing it, but the biggest Star Wars fan in LSM (Matty) reviewed it and hated it.
Travis B
I live in Florida because it’s one of the few states that are going in the right direct economically, legislatively, culturally ect. Desantis is a boss when it comes to handling emergencies, and a great leader. I know he won’t be gov for ever but he set the bar and a lot of us moved here for that reason. Hurricanes are just a part of the deal. I would never live on the coast for that reason. And get flood insurance lol
Eric Golley
Man, complaining about Sony 1st party output is NOT a "Forced narrative". I think the hosts on this show are vastly underestimating how many users are PC gamers with a PS5 for Sony 1st party almost exclusively. It's a massive group of people. Great episode though! Love the Chris/Colin dynamic.
Big Boss BE
40 kilogram is like 88 pounds
Joshua Taylor
Hope the next one is better for you
RIPIT
We’re American. We don’t know what a kilogram is.
Ryan
“Awestensively” is gonna make me scratch my ears out
Hozi
I've had an off week as well.
KillnStrangers
Your DeadRising take is dumb,Chris.. literally all you gotta do is put your survivors in THAT area where the boss is but just OUTTA THE WAY.
Big Boss BE
Well, in the past, I used to lift up to 40 kilograms in each hand with free weights(dumbbells). These days, I only train at home, but nowhere near as intensively as I used to. With the arrival of kids, building a house where we did as much of the work ourselves as possible, and now the kids’ hobbies, there’s very little time left. But I still try to stay in shape :).
Daddy T
Alright Alex Jones, I have to go work a real job now, g’luck
Jason
I hear the chick's are hot
Robbie Agnew
Come to Canada please! I would go 100%
JT
Pretty sure it had a long tail. Seems like the game had a soft start and word of mouth lead to sales in the years after launch.
Diddy’s Dong Quest
Hope you feel better Colin. Thanks for the hard work 🙏🏼
Adam Barnes
Drop bears are very much real.
Cody Raburn
A single case does not make you a scalper. That is not the scenario that was brought up in this episode.
Jordan Falduto
this one sentence could actually convince Colin. Toronto is just a 5 hour drive from me!
Brandon V
Good
Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE
You’re giving off ResetEra levels of unhinged online person. xD
Tyler Cumerford
It's safe here in Albuquerque. No tornadoes. No earthquakes. No fires. No hurrcaines. All we have is murderers, rapists, thieves, road rage, and burglars. Oh and homeless people on every corner high on meth.
Brandon V
Cope and seethe, you miserable dipshit. I will continue to post my rebuttals to whatever I feel like in these comments and there is nothing you can do about it. If Jaffe can go on unhinged tirades against normal people, I’ll say whatever the fuck I want about male democrat sex pest perverts. Tired of the circle jerk here on these shows and these comments. I am watching, always
Scott
I’m not a fan of seeing people who where selling like 50 ps5’s back in 2020 but if nick Francis got lucky and got a 30th pro and sees the huge profit margin I can’t blame him and I don’t see why clearly bitter jealous on lookers are pocket watching
Daddy T
This guy calling me a nerd and he pops a fucking gasket at the mention of a nuanced discussion. I may be a nerd subscribed to a gaming podcast network, but you’re a miserable cunt, I’d take being a nerd any day kid. You must have some long breaks to listen through the podcasts to find your talking point where you’ll pipe up about “non whites and women being pushed to pursue game development”, what’s your job? Full time Discord mod?
Cody Raburn
Scott, it’s because a second party is swooping in and pricing out the consumers the manufacturer intended the product for. Trying to justify that there is always a market for wealthier people is just coping with internal guilt or a lacking moral compass.
The Rose Experience
Only thing about a live show in Toronto is that the US dollar is so much stronger comparatively that there’s zero chance you’re losing money on it. Let’s go LSM, Canada is waiting!
Brandon V
The podcasts are uploaded at 9am, during my break at work, you fucking dork. Just because it takes your remedial ass hours to compose a 50 word post, doesn’t mean it takes me that long. You are an embarrassment, go sit down and think about what a nerd you are.
Michael McCoy
Nah he’s completely right, stop trying to justify scalping. Scalpers are scum.
Daddy T
You’re trying to be cute but 20 seconds my bollocks, the moment Jaffe is on a show or anything about political discourse comes up on a show you’re on your fucking soap box writing mad paragraphs and starting arguments with everyone, you’re a loser lad.
Jason
How much can you bench bro
Scott
Bro, the discord needs you! Be the hero you’re meant to be
Scott
If someone’s willing to pay it why are you(a third party) pocket watching other men you never met?
Michael
Nick Francis, go fuck yourself for trying to justify that you scalping is providing a service. All you are doing is creating a problem that you are pretending to fix by selling goods at an increased profit and preying on those with busier lives than you.
Brandon V
Yeah it takes up all of my time. Checking an app and taking 20 seconds to write a comment is very time consuming and labor intensive. I don’t know how I do it, guess I’m just built different
Special Needs Cannon
I’m surprised Alien Isolation sold 2 million copies. Sega has made sequels for games with less sold copies. And Sega is in that AA space so it’s kinda on them.
Supes
Don't worry Colin, I do the same thing with the trophy syncing on PS5. It's like how when I'm cleaning out my Gmail I'll hit the refresh button when I'm done, just to make sure I'm all caught up on everything. There's no NEED to do that—new emails come in automatically anyway—but it feels good to just hit that button and make extra-sure. Necessary? No. Something I like to do because I'm a kind of neurotic/OCD person? Yeah. It's a bit goofy, but I wouldn't call it psychotic. I just like to keep my digital stuff clean, synced, and organized.
Ronnie Escoto
Are you guys going to have a Sacred Symbols Plus episode on Metaphor?
Matt H
The Horizon price stuff is a bit bothersome but I definitely agree with the idea that anyone who wanted it already has it. Fun fact: the game was literally $0 when Sony was giving away games during Covid to promote staying at home (which is when I got it personally).
Michael Welter
Thanks for picking my question about Horizon pricing Colin. Just wanted to make it clear I have no problem with the $10 upgrade price. And have no problem with the price increase personally. I've Platinumed Zero Dawn so this doesn't affect me. Just thought it was an interesting topic to get more of your thoughts on given your comment about price increases.
lazer_josh
Launched dustin....in a Canon you say? 👀
Llogan from mmry.crd
as someone from Joplin Missouri, it's weird hearing people mention Joplin, because it's never for anything good lmao
Jake Z
As two people who love making fun of the British, you guys should play Thank Goodness You're Here! It's hilarious
Daddy T
Not much of a life tbh bud
Brandon V
Everyone is allowed to be super opinionated, but not me, I have to sit and listen to bad takes and never call them out. Just sit and consume, buddy. Thats what you’re best at.
NeighBuRrR
Saw three hours and fell to my knees
Brandon V
That’s the point. I live to annoy dorks like you
Zachary
Wow Chris, your metal gear takes continue to blow my mind lol. Especially a person that appreciates ps1 it’s still one of the greatest games ever made.
Gray Gordon
Garbage disposals can get jammed. They have an Allen key hole you can stick an Allen wrench in and move the blade mechanism manually. Sometimes it just needs unsticking. This is mainly for homeowners though that don’t have maintenance men. Also don’t do this with it turned on. Oh and another thing some have an internal breaker that can trip then you need to hit a reset button.
Jimbo
Colin's slow descent into madness by watching Aaron Rodgers doom The Jets season by being washed is going to be glorious
Daddy T
You comment on near every post on this Patreon and act like the most pompous dickhead I’ve ever seen, get a life lad, no one cares if “Brandon right once again” lol
Big Boss BE
Hell Yeah, time to listen while I'm working out, let's go! 🩶
Brandon V
Brandon right once again. Told you Bloober Team would nail it. If you haven’t played Observer you don’t get to speak on their talent level.
Cyprus Davis
All hail Atlus as the king of JRPGs 🙏
Josef Barker
3 hours boys! Short one this week 😭
Queef Wellington
Chris. There's a reset button underneath your disposal!
Jason
I'm the first.