Sacred Symbols+, #411 | Until Dawn Remake Review Discussion and Spoilercast
🕑 Added 2024-10-12 16:00:11 +0000 UTCIn the late summer of 2015, Sony published a second party horror game called Until Dawn. Developed by Supermassive and designed in the vein of a Quantic Dream title, the choice-based adventure found a more sizable audience upon release than PlayStation itself expected. But nearly a decade has since past, and with Sony now obsessed with cross-media synergy across its IP, an Until Dawn film is on the near-horizon. (Indeed, filming just wrapped.) This naturally leads us to a ground-up remake of Until Dawn for PS5, developed by a spin-off team called Ballistic Moon, itself founded by some ex-Supermassive devs. While the original ran on Killzone's Decima engine, the remake runs on Unreal Engine 5, and there are further changes afoot, too. How does this new-old project hold-up after all these years? Is it still fun to play? Do we recommend it to fans of the original and newcomers alike? Well, we've a lot to say about these subjects, and many others, too. So gear up for a scary Canadian winter, and come join us for a lengthy chat.
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Chris Evans
Absolutely man, great to see you thriving. Do me a favor and tell Colin we need a live show in Chicago sometime lol
Ian (616Entertainment)
Ha! Yea dude, I was there for 9 years. Left in 2020. Good to see you! Hahaha
Chris Evans
I just realized Ian used to work at my local disc replay. lol that was a trip.
Cornelius
I know this has nothing to do with until dawn. But I think joker 2 is an exact analogue of the last of us part 2, in that it's an unnecessary sequel to a beloved thing, that is actually very very good, but was panned by fans because they disagree with story beats. And I don't blame the creators for wanting to put out in the world what they actually intended to do for their first movie, because as Colin said it was liked by many people for the wrong reasons. You can like anything for whatever reason you want of course, but I don't blame the creator for wanting to make their story heard in the way it was intended. And dune is also an example of this, fans of the dune films are going to get very angry too if the next film in the series is adapted faithfully.
The Devmeister
You’re so right Colin, I wanted to replay this game for spooky season and I hadn’t played it since release but I have it from PlayStation plus collection when PS5 released… but after hearing your feedback I just downloaded the PS4 version again and it’s still great looking and plays well. Really don’t understand the point of these half assed remakes for remake sake that suck.
Scott LaFontaine
Longgg time dandan haha. But my support for Colin all goes back to you (and Cap i suppose)
Adam Barnes
lol Midnight with the soy boy energy - not explaining why he doesn’t like 616
Adam Barnes
Huh?
Ian (616Entertainment)
Hahaha holy shit, that's way back! Thanks dude. Time flies, doesn't it?
Scott LaFontaine
Ian you are the man. I discovered Colin a long ass time ago because our old mutual friend Cap McKay told me to watch Conversation with Corey. From there i discovered Colin, then Beyond. Eventually became a Kinda Funny patron now LSM. Anybody being negative is an ass hole. You are the man
Ian (616Entertainment)
I do appreciate that, thanks man. I have no idea who this Scott guy is or what my "online personality" is supposed to be but, hey, best of luck to him, lol. Comments like yours make a difference in my day, so thanks a lot, Jamie. It doesn't go unnoticed. =)
Jamie Hexum
Ian! Hey, I just wanted to say that I love your content and as a long time LSM fan, it’s been delightful seeing you pop up here more and more. Can’t please everyone, but keep in mind there’s a lot of us that appreciate you. You rock.
Scott
For me personally I just find your voice annoying and your online personality insufferable which is why I skip things you’re a part of. Hope that clears things up
Dante B
Yeah there’s a handful of people who are really hard up for you for some reason. Every appearance has been great keep it up.
Joseph Gedgaudas
Why does everyone keep mentioning this Radec person and hating on Ian? Did he send them all here? It's kinda weird
Ian (616Entertainment)
Yea duuuude. Thanks!
Ian (616Entertainment)
DF can save lives. Or, wallets.
Ian (616Entertainment)
Thanks Dante!
Ian (616Entertainment)
Thanks for tuning in even though you don't care about the topic, hahaha
Ian (616Entertainment)
I directly asked some of these guys in the discord about a year ago why they don't like me and most of them simply ignored me or refused to answer. I noticed they didn't answer you, either. lol. It's fine. Thanks for listening!
Ian (616Entertainment)
Some of these guys just don't like me. I don't know why nor am I concerned why, lol. It's okay. I appreciate your kind words. =)
Robbie Agnew
I’m obviously joking. It’s just funny how he can’t rationalize it
WhatDarrenPlays
Losing his mind is a bit of an exaggeration haha He’s noticing and bringing it up. And it is interesting.
ajwhite
I've never heard of 616, why are so many people skipping? He seems alright
Robbie Agnew
Oh man why? He seemed cool
Robbie Agnew
I love how Colin is losing his mind over how they are treating this game 😆
Tyler Kottmyer
It's funny that you two talk about Joker 2. My girl and I just watched it last night. There's one super late scene that could connect it to the wider batman universe, but that's really debatable
Michael Candelaria
Always good to see/hear Ian and Colin chop it up about stuff.
GaminGoob
616 was a fantastic guest! Thought the conversation was really cool despite having no interest in this game.
Dante B
Great guest
Ryan Zimm
I was interested in the remake, but based on Digital Foundry's analysis, it is a hard pass for now.
Jamie Hexum
Why is that?
Fatsloth
I'm a 60fps snob as well but I'm surprised it's seen as such a big deal in a game with limited interactivity like Until Dawn
Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE
Good episode, great guest.
Alexis
Yall needed someone with more PlayStation autism on this one like Radec
Jack Doheny
I was hoping Radec would get to be on this one. I always see him tweet about this game and his love for it.
Midnight
Radec would be a great guest. 616 however is a skip sorry.
Mokey
Looking forward to this one after seeing all the Radec tweets for this game, hopefully in the future he can talk with the boys about PS goodness
NotSkyWalker
Radec got me interested in this; I reckoned initially it was a fairly uninspired remake
GJ
YES!! radec is a walking playstation encyclopedia
Addiholic
This will be a fun episode I'm sure but id love to see someone like Radec get looped in the future. Like you Colin hes a walking encyclopedia of playstation knowledge. Would have been a fun three man show!!!
Stevie Walnuts
Feel like Radec should’ve been on this one, man lives and breathes PlayStation.
Scott
Man, I get nobody else played the remake but I’d rather have just got no video than one with this guy in it
GJ
lets fucking go 616 one of my fav youtubers
Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE
passed