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Sacred Symbols+, #416 | Silent Hill 2 Spoilercast & Review Discussion

🕑 Added 2024-11-02 16:00:11 +0000 UTC

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Robbie Agnew

I preferred Silent hill 2 remake over resident evil 4 remake

Big Boss BE

Gene vs Jaffe 😂😂😂 when they started talking about the sex party's, LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣

Adam Barnes

Breno, while I love a strawman as much as the next guy, please move along.

Breno Bezerra Bluhm

Jaffe is right and nobody is special for paying $5 or $10 a month, you believe Jaffe shouldn’t be able to talk shit to us cause we are patreons? Lol

TheMuff1nMon

I’m 55 minutes into this and Brad has maybe had 2 minutes of speaking.

Gene Park

yeah this was recorded before. they still don’t confirm it but yeah it’s confirmed lol

Kashif Mohamed

Fantastic episode and fantastic trio !

Luke Trewarne

Genuinely an All Time episode. This trio need to do more shows together

Adam Barnes

It’s absolutely wild to me how people give Jaffe a free pass to speak to patrons however he pleases, and as soon as someone pushes back they’re the asshole. Okay 🤷‍♂️

Luke Trewarne

I agree that the recipe analogy isn't a great one, as cooking is more nuanced than following a recipe, but damn dude, you don't gotta be rude about it

Luke Trewarne

Someone on Reddit solved the Polaroid puzzle which does indeed confirm the loop theory. They figured out that the Polaroids spell out you've been here for two decades

Ben Haner

Great episode!

Rancid Raisins

I'm late in getting to this, but imo Jaffe makes a great point regarding bragging about trophy counts. I've got a few platinums and I used a guide for all of them. Getting a platinum doesn't necessarily make you know the game better or more intimately. It usually just means you're good at following instructions. Just my opinion.

Bartevious

🤣🤣🤣

Adam Barnes

Valid point xx

Bartevious

I feel like we lose the plot a bit when it devolves into political rhetoric. We can have our opinions on that but I feel like it’s more productive staying focused on how the communication affects Matty’s situation and LSM.

Adam Barnes

He’s an average Leftist. Behaving like petulant children and then feigning offence to claim the moral high ground when they’re called on it is their modus operandi.

Bartevious

Jaffe oh Jaffe. You think everyone you engage with is immature yet the lens never goes back onto yourself. I’m sure the sizable portion of the community that has been rubbed the wrong way are all bad faith grifters. You like to talk shit with people online, it’s very obvious I’m not sure why you act like you’re some respectful boy with your arguments and phrasing. You are boisterous and controversial, that’s fine, it’s actually refreshing. I just get confused when you’re surprised that people engage with you in the same way.

Adam Barnes

A grown man with a cat going by an anonymous username, I’ll definitely take your comment into consideration.

Stray_Bullets

No one cares.

Oba

“they never confirm it’s a loop” the photos you find do in fact confirm it’s a loop. If you put them together it says “you’ve been here for two decades”

EugeneLevyBassist

I pointed something out to my wife when I was about to leave the hospital. When James sees the little girl running out side the hospital, the window is open...it's on the first floor. He could very easily jump out the window, but no, let's put a key on the table right next to the open window for a door basically around the corner of the room you're currently in, cause Video game logic lol.

Cameron Sturre

I love Jaffe

Adam Barnes

Lad, I’ve been here since it was in the low 4000 member count. There was never this much division in the comments, and you’re a sizeable portion of why, not all though, granted. I’ve watched people get permanent bans, including one just the other day, for not choosing their words more carefully, yet you fly off the handle with impunity and insult some of those of us who pay to be here, and have done so for years. I don’t hate you, dude. Go through the comments of episodes you’ve been on and you’ll see that I’m a fan. Relax with the melodrama, and generally just chill the fuck out eh? Moderate your behaviour the same way we, the paying customers, have to. Cheers

David Jaffe

Why? Because you could insult people and they would not show up and push back? Yeah, I can see how that would be good for someone like you. But I tell you what- I'll leave. No more responding to comments then. And if anyone has a problem with that, please see Adam. Thx and later everyone- thanks to all those here (of which they are the majority) who are kind and welcoming. It was fun while it lasted! See ya on a pod or stream! Laters!

Your Boi Nicky V

Wow, I was already in awe of this game, now my mind is blown with this purgatory theory. Thanks boys.

Adam Barnes

This community was a better place before you came along.

David Jaffe

Oh no, whatever will I do without you defending me?!? Also: God forbid someone has a different take on trophies than you do. Seriously, are you aware of what you typed? YES, my view on trophies is not your view on trophies- the horror!!! Unclench, sir. It can not be comfortable.

Jeffrey Rommel

Wow! Great combination of personalities and perspectives! This spoilercast was the perfect way to cap off what has become my game of the year. Thanks yall!

NeO JD

Not a horror fan but still enjoyed this ep. Hope Gene goes to that party and reports back. 😅

Adam Barnes

Jaffe’s analogy of following a trophy guide being the same as following a recipe is fucking retarded. Yeah dude, I followed the steps and made a delicious meal. I still fucking made the thing! Are you saying that every time you eat, David, it’s a purely going in blind experience? Bro…. It gets harder and harder to defend you after each pod that you’re on aye…

Gene Park

no labyrinth lol

Deemac

I've had absolutely zero history with anything Silent Hill, and knew nothing about this apart from the fact it's a survival horror, and vaguely knowing the image of Pyramid Head. So after hearing the very positive reviews of this at launch, I bought it to try it out. Can definitely say as someone experiencing this story for the first time, I loved this game. Certainly more of a psychological horror game than jumpscare-y, but the unsettling vibe throughout was perfect. The sound design throughout was immaculate. And again as someone with no knowledge of the original, I was very confused at some aspects early on, but it all tied together in the end. Glad I didn't know the story as I loved how it unfolded for me.

Special Needs Cannon

Best spoiler cast so far!!

Adam Razak

This might have the greatest sound design I've ever experienced in a horror game. I know a lot of it comes from the OG game, but the skill that was put into the 3D audio was amazing. A game hasn't pushed me to my psychological limit like this in a very long time, and a lot of that I attribute to the paranoia-inducing audio. Agree with Jaffe about the pacing issues too. If it was maybe 5-6 hours shorter, it would have much better pacing for me. I think too much time is spent playing peek-a-boo with those fucking annoying mannequins too.

JT

I believe Jaffe owes everyone a personal explanation on everything he has ever tweeted. Until then I refuse to listen. Great episode. This game didn’t drag for me at all though I really enjoyed my time with it and will be going back for the plat.

JT

I’m operating under the belief he is a top tier troll.

Adam Barnes

Respectfully, I disagree. I quite like Jaffe. Just wasn’t a fan of this particular thing. I’m not going to continue talking about it though. Someone above made a valid point that this wasn’t the place, and I agree. Xoxo

Bartevious

I appreciate the explanation Jaffe, you do not owe me one and I understand that. It doesn’t change my opinion on the matter, I’m not gonna keep bitching about it though, I’ve said what I wanted to say. Thank you for the well wishes, I hope you enjoy your daylight savings time with an extra hour of cod or something.

David Jaffe

FWIW- I engaged because I wanted to speak about the NDA part of it (and I did). And I mentioned the other as I knew people would ask. Last I'll say about it on these boards as it's not the place for it. Be well.

Bartevious

Fair point Dante. It was not thought provoking criticism. A better phrasing would be “I’m not trying to start an argument or be an asshole to be an asshole. I am expressing distaste for the Matty situation as he is an LSM employee and this is your first appearance on an LSM show since” rather than using a buzzword/phrase of “constructive criticism” to claim I can say anything I want under any grounds. If I make critical comments in the future, which I probably won’t, I’ll be less lazy with my choice of words so it can be more productive. I also agree this is not the place so I’ll bow out.

David Jaffe

There was a lab?!?! I went to the historical society, then the prison, then the rotating maze...while the society wasn't that long the prison and the maze back to back just went on too long for me personally.

Gene Park

he probably confused the prison and lab as the same loop.

Gene Park

yeah from the prison on i thought the game was fine. it was really the hospital alone that went on too long. the apartments could’ve been shorter but it was ok at the beginning.

Dante B

Even if this were the place for “constructive criticism” on this topic, you’re not even doing that either. You’re just pissed off and letting him know it.

Vanzant

I agree the game is a little too long but there’s not 6 of the same loops as Jaffe is claiming. Apartments normal/Dark - Hospital normal/dark - Prison (one version) - Labyrinth( one version ) - Hotel/Hotel Fire(which was not long)

ajwhite

It's excellent, check it out when you can!

Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE

DEI-make is such a ham-fisted anti-joke, it fucking rules. I think I’ve come around on Rufián. 😂

Adam Barnes

Unhinged? Okay, pal.

Special Needs Cannon

Bro why are you being unhinged? I’ve seen the statement and it’s mild at best. Jaffe expressed sensible sentiments. But if the next podcasts have to be filled with pearl clutching audience members that does not serve matty but only drags out an issue that Matty has already expertly squashed. Time to move on and put that energy into something else because this well is empty.

Bartevious

I respect your opinion Phil I can definitely see how this looks like attention seeking behavior. However it is jaffes first appearance on the network since everything went down. Not like they’re going to do a MrMattyPlays Drama Spoilercast next 😉 In other words I’m not looking to keep bringing it up, Jaffe made his first appearance, I had criticisms I feel are valid and did my best to not be disrespectful or out of pocket. It’s alright if people don’t agree. Just wanted to say my piece not looking to argue with anyone. Have a beautiful weekend everyone

Phil Walker

Fuck me. It's a Silent Hill spoiler cast. Just barge in asking 'has that thing I want to know about been talked about?!'. Fucking main character energy

Gene Park

Lmao

Adam Barnes

Jaffe, that statement is pure garbage. Grow a back bone. Everyone knows Matty isn’t that type of person.

Bartevious

We saw your second statement. It was fine in and of itself, does not address our problem with the original tweet. You can claim we are misinformed so you can get rid of any responsibility to evaluate your own actions.

Bartevious

I saw your response. That does not explain why you felt the need to contribute to the conversation while simultaneously saying nothing. I know you claimed to stay out of it but you did the opposite. If you have nothing to say, do that. Of course, this is exactly the response I expected out of you. Your track record shows you are incapable of looking inward outside of a most recent example of 6 years ago. Edit: I’m not looking to engage in a flame war with you Jaffe. I was disappointed by the way you conducted yourself and lost respect for you as a person and content creator. I expressed that. If you don’t want constructive criticism that’s fine, we don’t need to mince words over differences in our moral codes. Just do not assume I am misinformed and didn’t do my research for having an opinion.

David Jaffe

Like I said to the guy above, you are simply misinformed. I honestly don't know Matty well enough to throw him under the bus. But that said, here is what I said about it LAST week: https://x.com/davidscottjaffe/status/1851073790144553461

David Jaffe

I have nothing to apologize for. However, last week I did respond to the situation. If you had bothered searching before your snarky comment, perhaps you would have known that. But no worries pal, I'll do the work for you: https://x.com/davidscottjaffe/status/1851073790144553461

Michael Mashpotato

I never played the original and was unfamiliar with the story. I didn’t get into horror games until Bioshock and Dead Space. I absolutely love horror games now and found this game to be a masterpiece. The story blew my mind and made me feel so many emotions. I absolutely loved everything about this game.

Bartevious

Does Jaffe bother apologizing for his weakness with the Matty situation? I have yet to hear an explanation for his comments that is not adhering to a mob or generating traffic off controversy.

Cameron

I thought the beginning of the game was rather poorly paced, but once you get to the apartments, it finds its stride.

Adam Barnes

Haven’t listened yet. Was this recorded before or after David threw Matty under the bus?

Rufián

DEI-make. Maria's sex appeal, gone. Sexual environmental imagery, gone. Pyramid Head rape scenes, gone. Harris/Walz approved - for soft, transitioning gamers.