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Patreon Update: News for 2022, Winter Break, etc...

🕑 Added 2021-11-21 11:21:45 +0000 UTC

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Grog_Guy

Late reply and all, so maybe its already sorted out... but maybe it would helpful to ask some other RR writers what they did? There's at least a few who I know published after posting it for free.

Kyle Boyd

Sorry to hear that. your rates are so reasonable for such a high quality of work its absurd that people deel rhe need to pirate it.

Massgamer

Sorry that internet pirates got you down and hope you take time to enjoy your winter break with family. Be sure to really think about what is the best next steps for you personally and get advice from those you trust.

Void Herald

Hence why I said I don't want to enter a market I don't fully comprehend ;) in the art entrepreneur case mentioned earlier, it was more to create specific art pieces with limited/exclusivity access through the NFT technology like songs, or issue limited number of special digital editions with authenticity proof. In my mind, it's more about creating digital merchandise or 'special editions' ebooks difficult to replicate. At this point, it's just a vague idea but a potentially interesting one.

Void Herald

The Amazon bots don't take into account the age; pirate websites who pirated my stuff months after the update on Patreon/RR were seen as much 'potentially legitimate' as the older websites. I sent dozens of screenshots proving the time difference but nope XD

Adrian Engel

I'm sad to hear about your struggles. I can't offer advice on this unfortunately but I think it would be a good idea to reach out to other authors and hear how they handle the issue. In this digital age most people want everything handed to them with little to no difficulty.

John Pratt

Whatever you do, DO NOT GET IN TO NFT's. It's a useless and wasteful technology that recently got a lot of anonymous cash infusion when the US government made it harder to launder money through fine art. And now that the US government has made NFT's a taxable security, that crime money will move somewhere else. In the mean time the NFT market is made up exclusively out of art-thieves and con-men desperately trying to bilk the last bit of money they can out of idiots before the FCC shuts the whole thing down for being a pyramid scheme.

How the legitimacy of your copyright is verified? Do you know if they (bots I assume) take into consideration the date of upload/publication of the story? Maybe it would make sense to upload the files for the chapter/story to some "semi-private" locations, so when you want to publish the book you just point to those "semi-private" places, which have clearly earlier publication dates than anything else the pirates have, which would properly serve as proof of copyright? semi-private -> some weird domain that is unlikely to be accessed even in automated manner, but not requiring authentication. Regarding the NFTs... I second your friend for whatever it's worth, that You probably should look into that if you can make some time since the field is extremely overhyped, which can allow some crazy gains, especially if you can make some hot nfts and market them properly (which you can, even through patreon xD, checkout drunkendragon dot games for example, at current stage that's basically only an idea, not even complex one, with relatively simple giffs, but it still generated rather big sales (for a small unknown project xD).... However when it comes to securing your copyright with NFT, unfortunately, I think the field is still not mature enough to provide you any tangible advantage :/. In the future (1-3 years maybe?) I think it should be possible that you will be able to link your crypto verified ID with NFT for art, and then just sign transaction on some service with the wallet which contains both the ID and art nft, as a proof of copyright, but as far as I know there aren't even crypto projects which covers this scenario (even though they spawn like mushrooms after rain xD), and until some corpo structured company will put effort to integrate this type of solution it will take time (if they ever do that :( )

Prinny Knight

Happy hunting

Void Herald

Agreed. Unfortunately, the downside of a web serial is that I have to write chapters now on a set schedule but I can't 'disconnect' them from my thoughts and emotions, so when I feel drained and down, it inevitably impacts the writing quality, as I take longer to write the chapters and edit them. The break is not just to develop a long-term strategy, but to give me enough peace of mind to write Kairos' last volume in a satisfactory way.

Young Youghurt

I hope you find a sustainable way to achieve your dreams. However, and you mentioned it already, it seems to me like the quality Kairos really went down. I am sorry to say this but there is this difference between the grand idea behind every ark and its execution that is, because of all your worries, stingy on elaboration. So good luck with your plans in the long run but please don't disregard your immediate creations.

Void Herald

I might (key word being might) have understood piracy if I put all my works behind a huge paywall, but in my particular case pirates steal stuff that is already free on RR which makes it even more egregious; and the problem is that by doing so they make it harder for me to put stuff on Amazon to get an alternative source of revenue (and I don't even give Amazon exclusivity). They literally prevent people who have the means to support me financially from doing so, and that's the root of the issue.

Void Herald

It's possible, but won't be enough unfortunately. Amazon uses bots to check the works, so if even 30 percent of the story is behind a paywall, I'll still be flagged; it might be easier to prove my ownership, but the review team is mostly automated and difficult to discuss with. I would rather bypass the problem entirely if possible.

Matthew Lewis Worthington

Hmmm in a way I am a hypocrite. It all depends on whether I can access the site for free to read the novel because I am quite poor and can only afford to be a patreon on one or two novels but I do try to support when I can and read from the right sites but for the novels on web novels its just too expensive to pay and I go to other sites to read which is pirating in that way I am a hypocrite I dunno it's sometimes hard to support an author that uses sites that exploit them and the readers. Its why I way prefer royalroad

sri kalyan mulukutla

You can create some security here, but RR is a headless chicken as for as security goes. So this is the idea. Add some content only patreon can access, that way you will be at least be in safety.

Jonas

That’s sad to hear I hope every pirate erupted spontaneously and goes up in flames (but not our lovely Kairos) But do go to better things I really hope for an anime of your works like Vainqueur,Kairos (I started with kairos loved it and now I’m reading the other works from you because I love your writing style

Void Herald

Thanks! For planning breaks I'll think about it in December depending on how I adapt my general strategy. I'm something of a workaholic but I have my limits XD

Nathan Camussi

That great you deserve to take a good break. Joyeux Noël à l’avance. Maybe you should plan more breaks if you can make it financially of course.anyway rest well. PS: a visual adaptation of Quicksave would be soo Hype🤩.


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