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Never Die Twice 41: Forever Serpent (Ending)

🕑 Added 2020-10-10 12:15:58 +0000 UTC

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HenryMorgan

Thanks for the fiction, i thoroughly enjoyed this story.

Ulbert

And, of course, thank you for Writing this very much enjoyable story.

Zero9999

Annie didn't just leave Tye because of Gwen. She left him because he sacrificed all his friends for his goals, but wasn't willing to sacrifice himself because he was scared of death. Also he never trusted her since he never told her his plan, but she trusted him fully and he broke her trust. In my opinion Tye's main goal wasn't to give immortality for all , but to live forever, immortality for all was his second objective. Gwyn wasn't with the Gods and agreed with his immortally, but thought that he is too dangerous to be left alive because he didn't feel any emotion for the people he killed. Most people would feel guilty for the people they killed even if they thought it was the only way, but Tye never felt anything. As for Tye saying that anything could be done with magic that is only Tye's assumption and was never proven. For all we know some stuff can't be accomplished with magic and Tye's already did all of this before, thus this is just another cycle.

Ulbert

I agree with dear John over here. Annie shouldn‘t be surprised in the least, and maybe she isn’t. But she really fails to see the bigger picture. Everyone sacrificed themselves to complete what was nother’s plan and yet, his dearest apprentice just nopes out in the end?.... Nani? This is like all the people who observe something working and doing them a great boon, but then go on to complain that the given thingamabob was a bit too loud. Now, I realized that love is a great motivator, especially here, but why just leave? In the end, you can have Walter to yourself. Maybe he can start to love, maybe. Why say: You’re a big doo doo dragon, go away! After all, even if lied to, you should at least look past the veil of idiocy. Tbh.: I feel like this story has no clear villain... Everyone is either mentally... I guess disabled? Destroyed? Impaired? Hel and Medraut are both very much people who couldn’t take the cycles any longer. Well doeant really apply to Medraut but hou know what Im talking about. Gwen was merely, as mentioned above, a naive fool. Nothing more but a pest that needs to be eliminated. This may be a fitting end, but damn does it ever not answer the questions I want it to. But alas. This was the reason I became a patreon. And now it’s gone... I mean I read Vainqueer since day 8 but still, I will stay here and await more of your very much enjoyable toolbox of words.

John

I want to preface this by saying I love the story and all the characters. I think they were all really well written, but I will never understand Annie. I mean she goes along with all the death and sacrifice until she realizes he doesn't love her and never will then is all like "you killed gwen and betrayed her, how could you" even though gwen has expressed and shown many many times that she will never rest until Tye is dead. Like, what did you expect to happen Annie??? Just let her live so she can somehow contact the gods and build up an army to fight Tye? Gwen is understandable, but I would never consider her a hero. I would consider her a misguided fool who is way to stubborn for her own good. Like even if this is now the age of the undead, like Tye said, with enough time and effort you can do anything with magic. Like, make all the gross rotting corpses no longer gross rotting corpses. The Earthlanders proved that nothing is impossible. I also don't think this is about shades of gray. Tye was trying to end a system with a corrupt and insane admin that put hundreds of millions or even billions of people through the worst kinds of pain imaginable. What morally good person would ever allow something like that to continue. Hel was way too strong to let live since she would never allow anything other than what is "meant to happen" happen, so "trying to find another way" is an infeasible plan since no one is strong enough to stop her. Tye is 100% the hero here or anti-hero.

Njordt

The almost complete pyrrhic victory feeling was amazingly well built and my investment in the characters were fulfilled, all meaningful loose threads were tied up. The bittersweet victory and loss of Annie hurt just right. But for me atleast the story ended with the line "we still have much to do". It just feels unnecessary to leave it at a ambiguous note, there is no closure or finality with that last bit. I get there is the whole theme of breaking fate and the repeating/endless cycle, but it just feels bad man to end it like that from a reader perspective. Like what was the whole point of the story if it was just 'maybe' a cosmic re-run of Seinfeld, it shortsticks every character development and arc in such a way that it transforms my excitement for a awesomely pulled gambit to pure apathy. If you want to do a downer ending, do it, don't try to pull a sneaky one when it does even add anything. This was the kinda story were the ending almost needed a definitive outcome, with the means and morality up for debate, cus Walter sure crossed some terrible threshold at the end.

Congratulations for reaching the last chapter. It was a joy to read NDT and Vainqueur, I'm very glad for your work.

Void Herald

Well, thanks anyway. I thought it was a bit more fitting to end on Walter's character development (and the personal consequences he paid for his dream) than the fallout.

Void Herald

You're welcome :)

Void Herald

Nah, that's really the very last chapter. The book is closed, and how it goes on is up to readers' imagination ;)

Lasne

Thanks for the story 🙂

mhaj58

My bet is that Annie will become Hels reincarnation in the future once she reaches level 100 she will conspire with the gods and calamities to kill Walter. Yseult will follow Asclepius path to Niddhogg and restore the cycle and fate

mhaj58

I've always hated stories in which the protagonist succeeds in bringing the world he wants and doesn't live to tell it. Seeing this story go in the opposite direction makes for an interesting composition. I hope there's a bonus story regarding what happens with Annie after

Big I

Congrats on the story, I liked it. That said, I would have liked to have seen more of the long term effects of Walter's victory; him making the living immortal, invading Muspelheim, etc. I also didn't really care about Walter's final conversations, because I wasn't invested in either Annie or Yseult, and I kept expecting one of them to stab him in the back somehow. I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop. Still, again, good story.

Void Herald

And thanks for the support! Well, I encourage speculations on what the last part means, so there is no wrong or right answer. It's up to you to decide ;)

Void Herald

Thanks! Well, I won't answer the fate part, but I definitively see Tye as condemned to stay alone as long as he doesn't overcome his personal flaws. It's very lonely at the top of the world.

Joel Sasmad

This entire chapter was 10 ifferent flavors of ominous. The very end especially seemed to imply that maybe Walter hadn't truly broken fate and this had all happened before. Or at least this sense of loneliness is something he felt even before becoming Walter Tye. Thank you so much for the story Void. I am so glad I joined this Patron and got to expirience NDT and Vainqueur like this.

Imran

Thanks! Regardless of its ambiguity, I enjoyed the ending. Kinda sad that Gwen didn't make it to the end, but her making peace with Arthur before dying gives closure to her story. Too bad about Medraut though. So even till the very end, Walter fails to understand that somewhere along the line, he lost his humanity. Annie is definitely right - you don't *have* to be nice to people, but it makes the world a better place if you are. Yseult is with him though, so there's some hope left. I wonder, at the end where Walter feels like he's seen this before...it kinda feels like there's been times where he won, but couldn't live in hie "perfect" world, so he started over. I'm imagining a serpent eating its own tail, an eternal cycle of life, death, and rebirth, trying to get it right just once. Or maybe that's just me looking into it too much? All that said, this was a very enjoyable story, and I'm a bit sad that I no longer have it to look forward to on Saturday mornings. Still, it was a great ride, and I'm glad I got on when I did.


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