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Blood & Fur Chapter 92: The Cost of a Life

🕑 Added 2025-01-11 09:27:30 +0000 UTC
Blood & Fur Chapter 92: The Cost of a Life

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Publius Decius Mus

He did go to the mountains and presumably founded the Sapa Empire, but then he died off-page, it seems. I guess we will get more details about that later.

Kris Bruns

That's what I thought! Then where has the brother gone?

mhaj58

While we are responsible for the choices we make, we are not responsible for the choices we have. Iztac is often forced between so many terrible choices that we forget how damaged his soul is. A damaged soul can be healed but not easily or quickly

Publius Decius Mus

Oh! Thanks for the correction, somehow I assumed that he was the brother who went to the mountains.

Void Herald

Corrected. Inkarri is unrelated to the First Emperor though (the latter's brother is assuredly dead), though he was alive since the Sapa Empire's founding.

Publius Decius Mus

I didn't expect Inkarri to choose the path of direct opposition in the end. I thought he would try to play the 5D chess, and pretend to go along with Iztac's plans only to betray him at a more opportune moment. I guess Inkarri realised that time is not on his side, because Iztac is getting stronger at a terrifying pace, so his best chance to dispose of Iztac was yesterday. Unfortunately for him, both choices would have been equally bad for him, I guess the stars are not lying, in Iztac's world there is no place for Inkarri. On a different note, I wonder if Inkarri will ever have a face-to-face with his brother again. It would be interesting to see if the two immortal monsters would still wake a sparkle of humanity in each other. > Not yet. I felt so weak, so exposed, so frail and fragile. I could hold back the tears. I think this should be "I could NOT hold back the tears"?

Void Herald

The question "the value of a life" is the driving one of his volume. Iztac is still figuring what he wants to be to people ;)

Diego Urbina

More like uncompromising personally.

Diego Urbina

As well as provide an out for people that are disatisfied with their lot in life. And both the slavery and human sacrifices are bad of course.

Diego Urbina

I don't think he much cares about the political details so long as the rulers and people live their lives justly and try to be kind to each other. Any system would work if every man was kind and virtueous.

Diego Urbina

I think Iztac is has become a bit too uncompromising, he is willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater so to speak. Still, it is clear to me Manco and Inkarri will not cooperate. Let us see if we can hear something from Ayar Cachi.

Diego Urbina

Inefficency will always occur, because we corrupt anything we touch over time. The 70yr old thing isnt such a big thing because younger Mummies pop up occasionally and they will change their conquered areas, which will become more prosperous and then the older mummies will be forced to adapt to those changes.

Dylan Alexander

And it shows that he’s also a hypocrite., with regard to him ending plenty of lives, some for his own sense of satisfaction.

MasterofNova

Also having reread the chap I have to ask: what is the value of a human life to Iztac? He says that it shouldn't be ended by the will of another and that it should be allowed to choose it's own fate but what does that actually say about it's worth in reality, or atleast his perception of reality? Cause as that conversation showed there is not any absolute truth to the value of life in reality nor are all lives equal. So how would his ideal society measure the worth of a person?

Paul Kowalski

The conflict between Sapa and Younchaki can be paralleled with the war between the communist Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. Both systems were misanthropic, leading to millions of deaths both within their states and beyond. The confrontation between the communist cult (Mita) and the the cult of race (vampire) perfectly reflects the ideological conflict between the extreme left and right, with their characteristic catastrophic consequences.

ioajfidsnmfomds77

Well you would still have the typical issues that crop up with central planning. Namely inefficiency and hubris. Except worse because instead of having some 70 year old calling the shots you have eternal undead. Are they going to accept technological improvements or insist things are done the way they always have been

Paul Kowalski

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" - communism at its peak, these sapa

Dylan Alexander

Gotta wonder what Quetzalcoatl thinks about all of this.

George R

Such an amazing chapter thanks so much!

Void Herald

All I will say for the former part was that Aclla was indeed hoping she could find a way out of that suicide mission; but Iztac's words convinced her she had to strike for her people's sake.

Void Herald

The issue, of course, is that all planned economies encounter the same issue: humans are notoriously bad at planning the future, and those systems can't survive inevitable unforeseen changes ;)

Diego Urbina

Ngl I don't have such a crazy aversion to the Mita system. It just needs a few reforms like letting people be able to leave or change their form of service after a certain amount of service provided. Idk how long personally 5-10 yrs prob.

locky

"Aclla nodded slowly in quiet acceptance, and I immediately knew I had failed a test of some kind" This chapter makes me rethink this line. Originally I thought Aclla was simply assessing Iztac's usefulness as an asset to against the night lords but now given Inkarri never seemed willing to work with Iztac, I wonder if Aclla was looking for a way out. On a separate note I really need to read up more on Inca society I already thought they were fascinating and the extra tidbits from these chapters only reinforce that. I must however, take the contrianian position that I don't think the system described here would ever result in a just system. It could definitely be better than what's seen here and it may be preferable compared to the systems that were around at the time. I see a few major issues with it: Firstly, who gets to decide what career you are best suited for?I know, I for one went in a radically different direction with my career then I would have originally thought and am better for it. More importantly what stops those allocating the careers from choosing to do so in a way that benefits them. This detail becomes incredibly important when it comes to deciding leaders(seems incredibly easy for those on top to entrench themselves). Secondly I think this type of collective system is inevitably going to incentivise ways of thinking that dehumanizing people. If you let people opt out then that's less workers to help the system, people must take the jobs they are assigned by the system(otherwise who is going to do the shity ones) and anyone who does not conform with the system inherently risks its collapse(so maybe you should make them conform). Thirdly this system depends on the leadership making the correct decisions on how many people in what jobs are needed. People are notoriously bad at doing this and it's why many planned economies fail(there is a reason the inca are described as the most successful planned economy). TLDR: I think people/systems tend to work in the way they are incentivised to and I don't think the incentives the Sapa/Inca system provides are good ones. Also I think it requires a unrealistic degree of competence from those on top.

MasterofNova

Sad to see Aclla go when she was just becoming an actual character but eh, kinda sums up her existence tho. Also as a previous comment stated I honestly think the Inca system would be pretty good if modified and regulated appropriately. If such a system was designed to fulfill most of Maslow's hierarchy of needs (instead of just the being fed and housed bit) for those willing to submit to it then I think it would be pretty awesome.

Runaway_Cactuar

Getting a little too ambitious there, Cizin. Let's not forget that the reason he signed up for this bloodbath is that he wanted to weaken the Nightlords. The not-Inca, for all of their mercantilist view on life, shouldn't be the focus of the grand plan.

Void Herald

Well, the Inca system was exceptionally efficient during its run, as in it succeeded in providing for its citizens and providing security... but it collapsed even before the conquistadors arrived because of a civil war between its rulers. There is no system perfect enough to survive human nature ;)

Stultus

I once said i was afraid that this story comes to no good end and once more I feel the sword of Damocles hanging above. As we draw excruciatingly close to Iztac's ritual I can't help but feel nervous about Ichtaca's presence. Sometimes, people don't change, no matter how much everyone, including themselves, wants it. Of course, there's always the greater fear that everything Iztac has worked for will be swallowed up by the ocean of blood he has wrought. As for the Sapa/Inca's society, it's really fascinating. Obviously horrible and oppressive, but - not to sound like a maniac - I think a modified system like it could actually be pretty attractive, although ultimately it stems from the same desire for the state to guarantee basic "necessities" of Food, Water, Shelter, alongside Employment now tacked on. Granted, no modern system seems capable of promising the Food, let alone the other two as well. Nevermind adding Employment into the mix. Thanks for the Chapter!


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