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Jello Reviews "Fire Emblem: Engage"

🕑 Added 2025-01-30 05:06:25 +0000 UTC

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ASquared

That’s it, I’m making a protagonist who’s a sadist and feels really awkward and bad about how being violent kinda turns them on and that’s not a character arc or central characteristic it’s just a little quirk

ASquared

Ya know? Following these Fire Emblem and tactical game reviews and how they’re easy has gotten me thinking a lot about the one tactics game I’ve ever played, Triangle Strategy. Is it a perfect game? Far from it, the narrative is rough and the replays are not easy on the soul, and it kinda goes annoyingly hard into its 3 scales and triangle strategy gimmick. But its combats are good. Really good. I think the mark of a good, challenging strategy game is if it gives you, the player, stories to tell. And Triangle Strategy did that in fucking spades. I have 3 separate stories about how most of my units died, the “watch out most of your units died” music started playing, and I clutched + cheesed the whole combat while sweating my skin off praying the enemies didn’t pull a wildcard or that RNG fucked me over. And those are just the ones for where my Archers saved me! And from what I hear about Modern Fire Emblem in these reviews they just… don’t do that. Jello has to pull really generic examples that may or may not have happened to him because they’re arbitrary examples, and the best stories he has are ones the game gives him, not his actual gameplay. And that’s really disappointing.

JelloApocalypse

Ooh... this is smart.

BigMoffers

ReListening to this and honestly, my ideal Fire Emblem idea for turnwheels. Is that for 1. If you playing on casual, no matter the difficulty you have an infinite amount of turn wheels. I don’t see the point of having limited ones on casual if no one is gonna die. Your already playing the baby mode might make it stupid fair. BUT. There is a difficulty you get after you beat the initial game I think called maddening, which they added for more experienced FE players. they added since 3H, I want to make that available from the get go. If you’re playing that mode on classic. Then I think you should only get 10 turn wheels THE WHOLE GAME. That way if a character dies it could be like. “Ah shit, not Steve! I really liked him! I could use the turn wheel. But I only got like six left and I’m halfway through the game… he wasn’t that good of a unit… shit I think I’m just gonna have to let him die here.” That way it could give players a choice whether or not to save units. And if your units are actually CHARACTERS and also maybe good ones, it could cause players to decide whether or not they should sacrifice their favorite or not.

JelloApocalypse

oh my god...

Somme_One

I wonder if Phoenix Spaulding could tell me any 6 letter words I could use to describe that dragon loli girl

Bunni89

Oh that idea of playing as Veyle summoning you after you become an emblem is AWESOME!!! 👏👏👏 Genuinely why didn't they do that 😩 It made no fuckin sense that you're the only one who gets to keep a physical body.

Bunni89

Hope this didn't come off as too aggro, I tried to phrase it as best as I could.

Bunni89

Hey uhh, hope it's ok to say but you seem to be oddly vicious about your dislike of characters with anxiety/depression? It's fine to just dislike them, you're allowed to have different opinions. But the "wish he'd take that razor out of his hair and slit his own throat" joke here was way too much. You have every right to find characters "whiny", but joking about literal self harm is a bit insensitive. That moment just really shocked me. (To be clear I'm not saying this as a hater comment, I really enjoyed the rest of the review!)

Candaru Driemor

Thanks as always for the longform audio to listen to while I work! Excited for the many hours of anime opening opinions!

MtnUwU

I made the mistake of choosing this as my first fire emblem and man I was disappointed. I didn't know it'd be the way it was with emblems and such.

Masofuts

Please please talk about Octopath Traveler. It’d be nice to hear a fun review. There is really only 1-3 criticisms and their fine.

Daniel

Is there a world we can get either the open thoughts fire emblem, or a mass review of fire emblem? It sounds like youve played most of em, and I'd love to scrub through to hear about the ones Ive played (my beloved Sacred Stones I haven't played since I was a child) and the ones I just am not ever gonna play (sorry geneaology, I dont care enough to play you, but I'm curious enough to listen to the spite machine[affectionate] I subscribe to talk about you)

Bunni89

Massive agree on the thing about "He stole the orb!" *Nobody fuckin moved* Genuinely no clue why they haven't fixed this in the 3D games? It's SO fuckin obvious when they're fully rendered people. You can SEE they're not animated! This isn't a visual novel lol. I still can't stop laughing at that goddamn "Caspar! That guy offscreen is menancing offscreen children! Oh no he committed offscreen suicide!"

ver.

2:00:23 this gave me the idea that IS should’ve just leaned into Alear having severe amnesia to make him a better character Alear, for the millionth time: “there are other worlds?!??!” Vander, to a new party member: “oh, don’t mind him, he was in a coma for 1,000 years, his brain isn’t quite working right”

JelloApocalypse

No, I killed him instantly lmao

dan the human

Was Ashnard able to actually attack you this time

jubbybubby

Etie really is the epitome of that one meme that goes: "OMG look at her curls!" *image of someone who's hair couldn't be any straighter if she tried* "Kpop fans will wake up and just lie." now if anyone wants to see an ACTUALLY buff girl in fire emblem, Rinkah is right there in FE:Fates.

Veeson

So you said you are playing games of this style to prepare for your own FE script, does this mean you’ll play Redemption Reapers? I haven’t it, it’s not quite my style, but I’m just curious if you had plans on doing a review or stream.

Ricky Conrad

I think the last one broke something in my brain cause I looked at the 2 and a half hour runtime and thought “that’s not too long” before realizing what a fool I am

Drednot

30:21 The county of Evillainous? No, the country of EvilAnus!

Cephalo the Pod

Re: The Weird Adjective-Noun Emphasis (speaking as someone who, admittedly, hasn't played the game): While, in general, I suppose I agree on the noun needing to be emphasized, I think there's some circumstances where it makes sense to emphasize the adjective. For example: "Republican/Democrat Party" sounds right to me with "Republican/Democrat" emphasized. It's the part that's important.

CallistoDragon

I know what they were going for, the problem is that they didn't make it work even slightly. So now she is stuck with a bizarre circular grid on her head.

Flaming Olive

he's so swagless

Flaming Olive

Y'know what I hate is how in this game's DLC campaign about teaming up with "good versions" of the Four Hounds against "evil versions" of your entire army, instead of Griss they give you "Gregory", a version of Griss without any of his tattoos or piercings, whose entire shtick is "AH!!! PLEASE DON'T HURT ME!!! I DON'T LIKE GETTING HURT!!!"

PurpleIsDebeste

i think the waffle grid is meant to be a veil. she got that #funeraldrip

Act One

Think this game would've been better if the rings were certifications to become a Senior Divine Dragon, and every time someone mentioned S-Rank Divine Dragon Lumera, Alear goes "You know my mom?"

Benedict Ide

Looking through the rankings here, I'm relieved to see Yunaka up there, because like... I thought I was going insane. Someone asked me who my favorite character in Engage was, and I was racking my brains, like... no. No way. That can't be right. The fucking *Hiya Papaya vtuber* made the best impression?! Is something wrong with me? But yeah, she's like, a solid B minus of a character in a game where no one gets higher than a B. Every character is "here's character trait X, stapled to incongruous character trait Y! that's a character, right? we're done here? we don't have to figure out how to make this bit work?", and Yunaka feels like one of the only characters where they thought about it for two minutes and kind of put any effort in. Plus Laura Post put in a really good performance and sold a concept that could've easily been grating. Also, she's like... one of, what, three characters in the entire game who have a reason to be in your army besides "I'm a royal or one of their retainers and I am here to be On Your Side now and have no other character motivation"? Her and... what, the eleventh-hour old man character? The two optional babies? Pickings are *slim*. (Plus she came stapled to Micaiah, and an infinite free Physic staff on a thief does a lot for a first impression.)

JelloApocalypse

Celine is the #1 design you can absolute tell was made to be a vtuber that stands in the corner of a stream and not a fully-realized model that's supposed to exist in a game world

JelloApocalypse

When you said you liked the Zephia Griss death scene I raised a pitchfork for a second but after reading this I slowly lower it back down. This is pretty funny.

JelloApocalypse

You can listen to it, I cannot stress enough that Engage doesn't even have a story to spoil

JelloApocalypse

Like I said, someone on the dev team was a Tellius appreciater because for all of Engage's flaws they do get Ike and Soren very right

Crimson Claw

Having finished the review, I can't say I disagree with anything. But man, I nearly died of laughter learning it was a Vtuber designer making these characters. It explains everything.

Bunni89

Also FF9 did something similar with armour

Flak0ps

celine you have to stop. your hair too long. your dress too stupid. your swag too different. they’ll kill you

BigMoffers

Jello if you liked Ike’s conversations in the game you should look a video showing Soren’s, who is a dlc ring who honestly out of all of the telleus characters was picked for the game. But in those conversations, Soren is just fucking done with everyone’s bullshit the whole time. Here’s an example. Rosado: You’re pretty cute Soren. You’d be even cuter if you let loose once in a while. Have some fun! Soren: I don’t recall asking for your advice. Citrinne: You have such a calming air about you, Soren. Why not showcase it a little more. Soren: I’m too preoccupied with minding my own business. You should try it. It’s just that energy from him the whole time and I love it

CallistoDragon

After your advice i looked up the designs of the characters after having legit never having seen any of them beyond toothpaste. Here are my thoughts on some of the more notable ones: Alear - Just gonna ignore your dumb toothpaste hair for a minute but like WTF is going on with your outfits? Whats with the crotch X?? Framme - You would look much more normal if you werent in a hot pink dress, its SO much more saurated than everthing else. Why? Alfred - Yet another victim of 'stupid outfit disease'. The yellow cravat? The collar?? The brocade??? Céline - She looks like an orb. Theres honestly too much to unpack here but I hate her hat. Louis - He looks like you glued a dolls head on a gundam Alcryst - His leg armour makes it look like hes got chaps. Also whats with the 8 million arm belts?? Lapis - It is literally insane to me that you are named after the colour blue and your design is RED??? Ivy - Why does she have like a waffle grid or some shit glued to her face? Hortensia - The crotch X is back Veyle - Girl what is going on with your hair wings? cause its bad Zephia - So is the big moon going through your skull?? Marni - I also hate this girls hat Sombron - Bro. What???

Jack Patterson

I hope, “He taught me to wash my hands” is an Indus line in the next Epithet Book lol

dollqueen

🥳octopath mentioned!

Ziggy

I think the reason games are generally rated on a 4 to 10 scale, is that the 1 to 3 ratings are often reserved for games that are broken or have a lot of technical issues.

T1ggles

My friend and I became friends over fire emblem and we could NOT stomach streaming this game for more than 4 chapters of it. Debating whether or not to just listen to this and spoil the “story” or save it til we finally finish it

Michael Dunne

Two MORE hours of FE opinions? Let’s fucking go.

Benedict Ide

The key difference between 3H bad and Engage bad is that the 3H review is hours of barely-suppressed rage, and the Engage review is hours of barely-suppressed laughter. You can just go ahead and have fun taking the piss out of it without having to preface every bit of mockery with a sober analysis of exactly why it doesn't work. Of course it doesn't work! No one's gonna argue that point! One thing that I actually kinda liked about Engage's long cutscenes in the lategame was... the bit where Zephia and Griss die? Taken at, like, face value, the way it was probably intended, as a bit of last-minute pathos in the wake of a heel-face turn, it's nonsense. But like... you can also look at it through this lens where it's fucked-up on purpose. Here's this evil genocide collaborator who's just made a waste of her entire life by selling out her boss at the last minute, out of spite for promises left unfulfilled... and then she gets *validation*. She gets a sincere expression of love and approval for her stupid vacuous mockery of a family dynamic... ...from this total freak who's in it for sex reasons, who until this very moment she hadn't cared about for one second. *That's* the self-narrative she finds closure in at the last second! She was a good mommy, according to the serial killer step-on-me guy who's also dying right now! She's so pathetic that *that's* the consolation prize she has to take with her to the grave, and her decision to be satisfied with it highlights what a pitiable person she is. (I don't think that's the read they were *going* for- I think they were going for "oh, she had a heart of gold all along, how tragic"- but it's accidentally a pretty good sendoff for a shitty villain.)

RazTheGiant

The thing about weapons having skills that you need to keep the same weapon on a character to learn, also make me think of the Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced games

Low Charisma (LC)

I glad you atleast like octopath, really hope you try out the 2nd one at sone point

Crimson Claw

More fire emblem? You're spoiling us. I can only hope to see some fates criticism someday soon. I love the gameplay, but almost literally everything else is so comically bad (sans the rare support that helps a character, such as Camilla) that the whole game serves as a warning of what NOT to do when writing a plot or characters for the genre.