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Chap 17 Early Pages - PG18

🕑 Added 2025-03-18 00:52:25 +0000 UTC
Chap 17 Early Pages - PG18

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Rin Sparrow

Oh, Raziol!! So many hugs!

Kaiotee

The look on Raziol's face is absolutely devastating😭💜

Meliz Art

BABIEEEES💖💖💖

Juliette Wade

Also, this makes me hope EVEN MORE that Raziol kept the cloak. I would love to have Sulvain discover some really important memories have been preserved that he thought were lost.

Nekochan

Waiting for the next page is torture TwT (no rush, KaiJu!)

Juliette Wade

Yes, agreed on all of this.

saltandcookies

I agree, I think Udaya embroidered it! 🥹🥰 It’s hard to see the purple during the crusades flashback because it’s a nighttime scene, but on the day he married Udaya, it’s purple but not yet embroidered. Someone on webtoon more familiar with Indian customs than me said the scene of a young Udaya with white flowers in her long braid is their wedding, based on the flowers worn and the hairstyle. But when he’s crossing the desert after she dies, the cloak is embroidered. 🥺💔

Juliette Wade

Thank you, Saltandcookies! I have something to add. In the scene of Sulvain in 1100s armor, his cloak is not purple on the inside. Given that it has Indian designs, I think it was an addition he made after meeting Udaya (and I feel like I heard someone on here say she was the 1500s but I have no idea how to evaluate which it is).

Nekochan

So that would make Sulvain 1004-1005 years old as of 2025 and 956 as of 1976! Woah! 😮

Nekochan

Aweee Udaya was so recent for him in the 1600s! 🥺

Nekochan

“I thought you were dead!” “I am.” Me: *snorts*

Nekochan

Oh my god wow, the things I now know from this comment 🥺

saltandcookies

Sas, I love that description of the comment section on patreon! 😆 One of my favorite parts about becoming a patron is that I can meet other people who are as obsessed with Novae as I am. My partner is a gem for listening to me talk about Novae for hours every time he meets me, and I’m endlessly grateful, but he just doesn’t GET it, you know?? He’s never read it. 🥲

saltandcookies

From my research in the comment sections of every platform I could find this on except gumroad…. (Drumroll/warning to anyone who doesn’t want potential spoilers about details the story itself hasn’t revealed……) . . . —Sulvain’s armor matches the style used during the crusades in the 1100s, so 12th century. —Somewhere on twitter, it was confirmed Sulvain was born in 1020, so he probably died in the 1040s. —It’s confirmed Vivi, Sesam, and a few other characters are still alive, though we’re not sure how yet —There have been hints that the embalmer Vivi took Sulvain to was a Mender. It hasn’t been confirmed, but there were wheat motifs on the coffin and some other hints dropped. —Sulvain (and most likely his sister) were sentenced to be stoned to death. Historically, if a stoning goes on for several hours without causing death, the condemned person will be quietly strangled (which we’ve watched happen to Sulvain 😢) Typically, everyone in the village HAS to take part in the stoning, even family and loved ones who may not want to. —The person who strangled Sulvain had tear stains on his sleeves and is suspected by some to be his father, as they have the same hairstyle as his father in the bonus comic and the same skin tone as Sulvain. This hasn’t been confirmed, and his father has been shown to have facial hair, but it’s *possible* and if true, would give even more tragic meaning to why he became mute. —Sulvain’s master was a redhead in the flashback we see of him burning at the stake —Sulvain’s cloak is the same style and color as his master’s, but with purple lining I’m probably forgetting some, but I hope this is as exciting for others as it has been for me. 🥰 Novae changed my life when I discovered it just over a month ago. It gives me something to think about other than sad stuff, and I’m so grateful to have this space to discuss it with other people who love it as much as I do. 😭❤️🙌 . . . . (Potential spoilers/theories above.)

Juliette Wade

Couples have a way that they talk to each other. It changes more slowly over time than the surrounding language because new vocabulary/expressions get introduced more slowly.

Juliette Wade

I'm thinking Crusades era (because of the Sulvain=Catholic comment) and it could have been his master in the Anthemion.

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

I felt so silly for doing that much intense research and intense yapping and intense hyperfixation, but I call this place "VIP paid fanclub forum of Novae" and it's easier for me 😂

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

Also the armour - yes! it hints the times not so long after his death like later XI or maybe XII century if I'm not mistaken, super interested what fu**ed him so much he was driven to such violence sjxjdjdjdc (looking what he did after Raziol I can only guess it was someone close to him dying)

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

She has a name 😭 /j Kitty the Immortal Magical Space Cat -sailor moon theme plays -

Juliette Wade

All of you guys are awesome. I've been going back and rereading, too, but I'm new to this, and I haven't really mined the comments, so it's really great to see all the details you've picked up. There's a lot of foreshadowing available just in the images/dialogue, too. I'm sure you all already noticed that in the shot of Sulvain razing the city, he's wearing exactly the same armor as he is when he saw the comet diverge... Atlanas, I will be saying "immortal magical space cat" now, so thank you.

saltandcookies

“Immortal magical space cat.” I love this so much. 😂😂 I can’t wait to see if Raz has gained a more broad perspective on the plausibility of magic in his centuries of being—against all scientific explanation—immortal. 🤩

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

To his defence Vivi wants to do exactly that too 😂

Atlanas E. Kildarin

I am going to guess that Raziol is still going to be very scientific. 😆 “I am going to rationalize this with science!” says Raz, the immortal magical space cat. Jokes aside though, it’s going to be really cool to see what he has learned about both magic and science in the last few centuries.

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

ooooohHHHHHH👀👀👀👀❣️❣️❣️🌌💗💗💗✨✨✨🪐🪐🪐🪐 thank you for telling me that

astral projection

this is so BEAUTIFUL i just can't thank you so much for this sas!!

saltandcookies

Awww, that is so sweet!! 🥹💖 I do the same thing! I like to go back through old episodes and read the comments to look for clues to make theories about what might happen next. I’m just so excited for more, I can’t help it. 🥰 Btw, I saw confirmation (I think it was in the webtoon comments?) that Sulvain met Udaya in the 1500s. Your research was spot-on!

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

Im doing this thing that I read comments under older early pages on patreon and I came across this comments that Sulvain is so comfortable with Raziol that he lets the little details slips 😂 (and KaiJu replied to that that Raz is too oblivious and scientific AT THE MOMENT" -it was in 2019 lol) maybe he will finally puzzle those out. Sjsjdjdjdj (I'm super normal why do you ask)

saltandcookies

As much as I hope Sulvain will tell Raziol more about himself too… I can totally imagine him NOT explaining, then they’ll pass someone Sulvain met during the house party at school, and they’ll call out “AYYY, it’s the NECROMANCER!” and Raziol will finally have the last puzzle piece needed to connect the dots himself. 😂😭 Well, in Sulvain’s defense, this is probably not the ideal time to break the news. “I thought you were dead!” “I am.”

Juliette Wade

Thank you for sending me back to the website to figure out what you meant, Sas!

Juliette Wade

Oh, Sas, how delightful! You took so much care choosing those images. It works wonderfully.

saltandcookies

That was so incredibly cute!! 😭❤️

saltandcookies

Thank you! I appreciate it. 💞

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

https://www.tumblr.com/sastheforestspirit/778476665489719296/novae-comic?source=share

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

I can put the link here too, I just prefer not to take the attention from KaiJu (I did it once and felt silly later sjdjdjd)

Missiek43

Invite link: discord.gg/qR7yWeC

saltandcookies

How do I find the discord server? 🥹

Missiek43

I have cried so much over this story. 😭❤️

Missiek43

Exactly 😭😭❤️❤️

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

(the link is shared on discord too!)

Missiek43

Sas just sent me the link. I was smiling so big and crying immediately

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

Fueling creativity that fuel my creativity is my passion hahaha ❣️

KaiJu

OH MY GOSH that was so beautiful!!! 😭💖💖💖(hollering) So cute and so perfectly timed! Thank you for sharing this with us Sas! (What a beautiful song choice, this will be stuck in our heads all day as we work on the next pages.)

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

(psst KaiJu if you will go to Tumblr and check Novae comic mentions you will find something. I abandoned my life today for this 😽)

S Mcnamara

That hand hold being Sulvain going ‘ I accept you Raziol whatever happened’ and how Raz’s face, oh he’s just shattered, such sweet gentle souls

Sang Steppenwolf

Them holding hands... I'm destroyed.

Hi-D

Living for the small touches here.. After being away from each other for so long, even the smallest hand-hold feels so significant 😫🥹

Nekochan

Yes yes, I’ve definitely heard that 🙂‍↕️

Roedii

Isn't that kind of adorable? 🥹 You know what they say: two young-old men who talk Shakespearian together stay together... or something of the sort ✨

Nekochan

I noticed he was talking ✨ fancy ✨

shy

i’m crying i’m so happy they’ve finally reunited and are talking about this oiuuurhrggrrhhr

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

KaiJu my dears, when did you uploaded the redrawn pages to the website because I just had the "beautiful Raziol jumpscare" 💓💗💓💗💞❣️❣️ djdjdjfjf last time I've read it I was reading from the pdf's so I just don't know how long it has been there haha

Emily Rochester

Why is no one hugging yet?????

astral projection

i need them to have a long, long hug and equally long conversation. i need their souls to touch, to fuse together - like long time ago...

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

I like to think that Sulvain triggered in Raziol the old fashioned way of speaking. He sounds like he recites Macbeth or something, talking like this in those modern clothes 🤣 (I love him)

Roedii

Oh Raz 🥺 You did the best you could... also Sulvain STOP SITTING THERE AND HUG HIM! DO SOMETHING 😤😂

Juliette Wade

Still swooning over the faces and hands in this one. Also: the black ink in his memories comes from Kitty's influence. She's the one that causes his blackout rampages.

Neko-san

Awww, they are holding hands!! 🥺🥺💖💖 Raziol looks so sad (understandably) but this page made me realise, once again, how beautiful his eyes are!

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

I'm literally rereading boyfriends everlasting every few updates to print their smiles into my eyelids so I know they will be happy. I look at all the modern "AU sjdjdjd" arts of them with 🥹🥹 face

Eibhlin Brennan

Boo, historians have ALREADY said it at this point. Its been centuries!!!

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

Sometimes I have this feeling they choose him to sleep 83 years so Raziol has no hopes at all. Even if he had hopes he survived the wound, if he would be mortal he would have to have 103 years. So after this much Raziol would assume he is gone no matter what 😭

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

Historians: they were such a good friends sjdjdjfjdjf

Sas (Milo's studio insulation funds)

For a second I thought he let go his hand and was like "SULVAIN NOOO" And then, as I was cuddling waiting for my alarm to go on, because I still had an half an hour, I dreamed that he pulled his head gently and smooched his temple zjxjdjcf Like I could swear this panel exists I see it vividly at the end of the page. The end of the week cannot be more far away

Fond Phantom

just fell to my knees in the middle of the street.

homebody_adventurer

Back then, Raziol drank some of Sulvain’s blood. Could that be why his memories of that time are like black ink? It’s Sulvain’s turn next, that’s gonna be a hard story to tell. 🥺🥺🥺 Also the panels are superb. The way Raz’s mouth crimps is just 👩‍🍳 💋

homebody_adventurer

If Raz and Sulvain can be strong, so can we!

Amélie

I click on that link and read the rest of that scene and the number of times Sulvain takes Raz’s hands to comfort him really makes this gesture a key way for him to reassure Raz. And the fear he had to be left behind and that’s what happened… oh my 😭

Fritz

Be strong, be strong *sobbing uncontrollably*

Eibhlin Brennan

Two dudes crying on a bench, no feet apart cause they queer AF!

Missiek43

Wait for meeeeee!

OdacioChoco

He’s being strong despite being on the brink of tearing up. Oh, Raziol, you sweet boi… But the way his expression showed, looking back at Sul, is BREAKING ME 🥺 I can’t take this!!

Juliette Wade

I keep asking myself how KaiJu learned to draw hands and micro-expressions so well. I imagine photo models and/or classes were involved? But it's also possible to self-teach with the right resources. It's marvelous.

Jay Parker

We must persevere!!!!

Nekochan

HUG PILE IMMEDIATELY

Nekochan

If I can wait every week for more of this masterpiece, I can do it this week too òwó

Kass

as i saw this notification i thought "i hope they hold hands"

Missiek43

I know!! I was admiring their hands...how perfectly their fingers look. ❤️

Brooke

MY HEART!!! 💞💞💞

Alyssa

Kaiju. Your art. It's biting me. Raz's sweet face, omg.

Juliette Wade

Oh KaiJu thank you so much for saying this. I love the way you take your time with emotions but this is quite the harrowing ride.

Halee

Even as a sad boi vamp, Raz is still the king of the cutie blush 😭

Iselin

Ahhh, the hand holding 💔. Are his foggy memories due to the fact he drank some of Sulvain blood !!?

Ghost

It's heartbreaking because while Sulvain had a hunch he could see Raziol again, Raziol just thought that Sulvain was gone forever...

Missiek43

Yess! The imagery is TOP TIER!!

Juliette Wade

Oh, their faces! Holding his hand is exactly the right thing to do, Sulvain, well done. Poor Raziol. Not having control of myself is already a phobia of mine; I can't imagine the horror he went through.

Missiek43

Thank you thank you!! 😭🫂🥺❤️❤️

KaiJu

Not to worry, the second half of this chapter is much more light hearted 😊

Missiek43

Oh my GAWD that look on Raziol's face.....he's about to break down and my heart just SHATTERED. I swear I'm going to cry. 😭😭😭 KaiJu, my friends, please PLEASE tell us they will heal from this....what I wouldn't give to see them smiling at each other. I know they have to get through this to reach the other side, together but..... Damnnnnn 😭😭

Leeds

That link back is cruuuel 😭

Lee

The finger squeeze 😭😫!!! Also that’s a fantastic way of explaining it Raz good job!!!

Em

Aahh sweet bb boyyyy. Don't cry Rasim 😭😭

Jay Parker

Oh sweet Raz. 😭 i just wanna hug him so badly!


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