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Chapter 1,393

🕑 Added 2025-06-30 19:56:00 +0000 UTC

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ItsFin

Long way from when Iz used to torch zac for asking simple questions

Edgar Segura

Thats a wild last statement. What exactly does that imply? This is insane. I have some theories like some of the Godking generals are still aroundish like Joanna teachers Eyler. It could be that they're more similar the primo where they have pseudo immortality or it might just affect the Eternal servants like on ensolus

Lex Luther S

Ermmm, a lot of this is to far fetched. No, zac won't be a half step monarch. As stated, that is giving up in a sense and it severely limits ones potential and inner world size and as we know, the larger the inner world, the more weight and strength they can bring out. If you're saying zac will have the strength of one, then he already eclipses your average half-step monarch and by the trials end, most early stage monarchs, at least frontier kind, will be a challenging but possible fight. Yes, earth and, in turn, zacs faction has about 70 years left before the initiation where their veil is lifted, as well as getting a grade on how well they did that 100 years. When Ultom ends, the entire multiverse will see upheavals; remember, the flamebearers that pass Ultoms trial can all have a say in how they want the era to go and there can be more than one, which my guess will be Zac, Iz, Yselio and that hidden imperial from the Eternal storm. As for zecia, with how the Sangha did things, it's clear the sector has fallen. But the system will surely give a way out to the factions that went well and beyond what was required, and zacs faction is number one. I do think he'll get a number of monarchs joining his banner, most noticeably the Peaks as they have a vendetta against the kan'tanu and likely the black heart sect as well as likely the everfast monarch. As for the Zenthaya matriarch and her faction, no doubt she'll find home somewhere else. I doubt it'll be with zacs faction. As for Zac immediately leaving after the trial, yeah, there's no WAY that's going to happen. The Atwood empire is entering a tumultuous period, and to be without both emperors would be highly ill-advised. Not only that, but zac and his seal bearers not only went through an insane danger zone to reach the Eternal guardians but also an extremely dangerous trial and will need ample time to consolidate their gains and just relax and unwind. My guess is it will take 20 or so years to properly set-up his empire in wherever they're moved as well as give those that will need to come with him on his mother's mission and chance to unwind and properly grow. This is even more prudent if zac truly decides to do away with the creators shipyard. They'll need a source of revenue to not enter a deficit and go bankrupt. As for arcaz and his seal bearers bringing down any kan'tanu left alive, thats assuming his faction will stay in the Zecia sector long enough to even attempt to aide before being given the option to be sent elsewhere. Honestly, I doubt he'd do so, given they've done plenty thanks to the Eternal guardians. As for where his faction gets moved, no way would zac want it in the heartlands of the undead empire. My guess is zac will get sent to a proper B grade sector where he and his faction can properly flourish. I do know that both zac and arcaz will be leaving for off world travel soon enough, even if they're given 20 years, zac will embark on his mother mission while arcaz will be picked up to go to the abyssal shores but this is something far far in the future. One way it could go is zacs human side catches the attention of Izs' family, gaining backing from them, while arcaz gets back from the abyssal shores and the primo. All this is up to TFD though and years away. I wouldn't be surprised if the ultom arc goes for another 200 chapters given this is the culmination of such a long overarching plot, even minor details shouldn't be glossed iver even if it makes some people pissy about slower story progression.

Julius Roßner

Hey Guys, so I Just got done Reading ans Id like to share some thoughts regarding after ultom: - so first I am under the impression that when zac Leaves he will either be a half step monarch or Something similar. - I also think that earth hast Like 60-70years of introduction left, right? Because Zac in real time ist Like 50 and earth got integrated when he was 20 Something. (At least i think so, this is all from memory). So the theory goes: When ultom ends there is gonna be a big disruption around zecia, so that the participants dont get hunted down. My theory is that the undead Empire cant immedeatly get Zac and His Empire, so while His human Side immedeatly Leaves for His mothers Mission His undead Side stays and together with His extremely strong sealbearers fucks up the Kan' tanu in zecia. I also think He will unite the people still in zecia. A good candidate is the zenthaya pill house matriach. She is a high Monarch whos interested in Zac, because their cultivation is compatible and her faction would be a biggg boon to His Empire. After Earth gets "integrated" it and all the other usefull planets the Empire hast conquered will be moved by the undead Empire to some place in the Heartlands, prob. Into some Kind of Life / death Environment. If I missed anything regarding the zenthaya or other zecia factions please correct me :)

Lex Luther S

Man it wasnt until I started reading the Ultom arc from start till now that I realized how much I missed Defiance of the fall. The 3 weekly chapters and endless theory craft I'd go through when bored out my mind at work. The just general enjoyment I get from how well crafted this story and its laws and power system is to the characters. And by far Esmeralda is my absolute favorite. Zac is 2nd and ogras is 3rd, but Esmeralda just takes the cake as the best Toad around. Truly will miss her when the trials over and Lovla takes her away to absorb her treasure and regain her strength. I am bummed out the chapters was delayed another week but it is what it is. One more week won't hurt.

Lex Luther S

Embrace the dao of Patience, for it shall become your guiding light of TFD patreon updates.

Lex Luther S

Ai another 9 days till chapter drops. Truly saddening.

Lex Luther S

I seriously can't understand the hate you have for Catheya. As for a full read through again, I say go for it. With another week added to the timeline before the next chapter, you'll make some decent headway if all you do is read Defiance of the fall. Remember, sleep and food are for the weak.

Jeff McCulley

I was rereading the exchange with Rava, and I found myself kind of amazed at how chock full of goodies that was. It also offered a treasure map of things he needed to (and could) eventually do. That mini arc is LOADED. Biggest weakness was his Heart, and he fixed that like a champ! Body was second, upgrade there. The biggest problem was Faith, and, well, he made that his own. No foreshadowing there, huh? And that’s just the tip of the iceberg…all of the resources, buildings and connected Mystic Realms is another. As well as that never explained teleporter that was behind Rava. And, she’s had all of his non-sealbearers (around 175) all this time now. So looking forward to it!

Jeff McCulley

Hah! I went back to reread Zac’s first encounter with Rava—I think it’s key at some point going forward—and got stuck running through it over and over again. All sorts of goodies! I had intended to do a series reread—and add some reference points to my “bad Catheya” note (it’s very long), but Igor caught up in catching up on a couple of other series. That’s done now. Now sure I’ll be done by Friday, but I guess I should go start rereading about some random schmuck in the woods with a little camping axe, huh?

D P

I miss you come back!!!

Booksaregood

I check everyday hoping for more theories in comments, the 15th cannot come fast enough

SandreX

I might be wrong, but let me give you my theory. First of all system pillars are like uber rituals made by Empire to wash away their mistakes and resurect their claim on cosmos. I believe Buddhists are trying to use that fact to make entire ritual abide their "vision" of resurrection. Basically if everything goes the way Empire planned they will be reborn through imperial faith, but if baldies manage to funnel them through their cycle, they pretty much can strip all imperial destiny trapped in ritual and with it solidify their position in Cosmos

Evan Therrien

She’s partaking in the trial.

Silent Consent

Ha, you’d need to go way back and it’s silly at this point in my opinion. He makes his own skills and paves his own path. Who really cares how much his strength is? I don’t and I think it’s super silly once he hit D grade.

Silent Consent

I super don’t get how the Buddhists think they can send already dead people into their exclusive version of an afterlife and steal their destiny but whatever.

J L

is Carl's wife on Earth?

Christopher Walker

Does anyone remember the last chapter that had level and stat breakdown?

Mitchell Meyers

This is the chapter he leaves before a 2 month break....

DagNabItAll

https://discord.gg/X3bAsxzm If that doesn't work, you can put your discord into Patreon somewhere and you get auto added to the discords you have privileges at.

Jmitias

Hey guys, how do I join the discord? Never used it, but I think I might explode if I don’t put my DoTF theories in writing

Jeff McCulley

That’s pretty much it!

MacMahon Wenzl

I'm just interpret it as "Carl is so assured in his belief that Zac and Iz are insane monsters that even the Dharma can't influence him"

Sirloki

It sounded like most of them do die though in between eras. some for sure make it through but I'm not sure how many.

Sirloki

Our boy Carl can't be shook by no baldies!! Just felt like he was missing home a bit indeed! Well, I was going to try and hold out until August to read these so the delay would be less but I don't think it worked out? Oh well 🎉

Jeff McCulley

Eh, he’s just dissing the Baldies, for how irrelevant they are to him. I’m good with that.

M💬

I don’t think I’ve seen a more apt description. His enemies must be turning in their grave after finding out.

M💬

What chapter was Janos dream I want to re read that part.

SandreX

Glad to hear from the best characters in this chapter.. Carl, as always is insanely sane 😂. Iz figuring out in how much crap they are is firm step towards her and Zac having one hell of the advanture together. Also in the long run instead of six bath of bhuddists we will have Zac's system where death is death and probably with Orgras he will create some kind of reward/punishment system after death.

DagNabItAll

“Will the resurrection of the empire undo their work on their Six Paths of whatever?” Carl understands this about as much as me.

Jeff McCulley

Here we go: “What they want is the empire itself. They want to send the last souls of the Limitless Empire into the Six Paths” A. The Baldies want to steal the make the Limitless Empire their own. B. Yselio is trying to steal Zac’s Fate, and make the Limitless Empire his own. *note, he may be responsible for this spring. 3. In Janos Dream, the last we saw of him, his vision—and apparently Grand Dream’s as well—was of a blended Limitless and Atwood Empire. Hope that helps to see the direction TDF seems to be going.

MikeNaka

remember zac has the world ending bomb on ensolus. maybe he'll stick that up blessed dream's sleepy ass to wake him up and tell him it's time to enter oblivion.

coldar

Senior superlatives, class of 102,025, 'Least Likely to Become a Baldie' goes to: Carl! TYFC TFD, have a great break!

Mike Ockslonge

Seeing Carls POV is funny because you remember how BS it would be to have Zac invade your mystic realm or something. Want to kill him? His mother and father are royalty from peak factions that date back to and matched the limitless empire at its peak. They don’t care? He has a bloodline so valuable that three supremacies are heavily invested. You don’t care? He is apparently literally and figuratively a favored son of the system Still? Alright… He has two bodies. A race that makes him ultra durable to the point his father is considered unkillable. Another race and bloodline that is pretty much the same just with abilities too. Still? He can regrow limbs in seconds. No problem just send a champion ? He cheated somehow and became one of the best weapons masters for his grade in the multiverse…. His second specialty is one-one battles. Just send an army? Killing lots of people at once is his main specialty Send a mentalist? He has a super powerful soul. Poison him? He’s completely immune to most poisons. Nastier poison? He eats it. Light him on fire? This kind of works but limited, can regrow limbs remember? Just use divination or karma to predict his next move? You can’t divine him when he’s on his BS plus also pretty much immune to karma. Send autarchs? He calls buddies and chops them then feeds them to evil gods. Send supremacies? Nice try they like him plus you wouldn’t have this problem if you had them. You just don’t want him to take your stuff? Sorry one of his favorite things is stealing. You have a big vault? He has a reborn god of thieves in his pocket that can break into pretty much anything. Your vault is impenetrable? He will just eat your vault no problem. You will just wait for him to leave? Sadly, he always accidentally blows up the mystic realm. You will send everything you have? Unfortunately he also has tons of fate (real plot armor) you are totally screwed.

William Keith

One can only hope

Joshua Little

Thanks for the chapter. Truely genius to have the 2 crazies work together.

Mike Ockslonge

Catheya is cooked she is definitely gonna get sucked into a world of ice or heroically sacrifice herself to kill somebody. The setup of Iz and Zac as a universe destroying couple is totally in the cards. Plus catheya lowkey can’t hang when it comes to blowing stuff up, Iz learned how to do it in no time ie this fort, beasts, that one space fish, the void gate….but catheya isn’t a very good student she hasn’t blown up hardly anything. Plus I don’t really see this author writing a harem so she gotta die tragically. Maybe his mother will zap her too

Mike Ockslonge

Pretty excited to see baldies get chopped up in the fall!! Also no one has commented on the fact that they live in an eternal heritage that takes them along for the ride. They have been around for multiple eras and if I remember right - the stellar wanderers codified the dao, the gurus codified the laws and what’s her name did the destiny. The sangha are probably the gurus and have been conspiring pretty much since the beginning of time.

Mike Ockslonge

Ya the bloodline thing is kind of confusing to me but it’s looking more and more like stellar peak is correct. I was thinking about how this is connected to laondio and realized the other thing throwing me off the scent is that laondio was an alchemist, which means he very likely cultivated the dao of fire as well. It’s like everything is set up to have koltara be the ultimate authority on burning people to a crisp but it’s impossible. Also, the Iz thing is very confusing. She has the vermillion bird form, the jinwu, and a third form the abyssal butterfly which I couldn’t find an equivalency to but is often associated with fire in Mexican mythology or there is an Aztec goddess of death called the obsidian butterfly. Interestingly, on the wiki the excerpt from the book about these aspects implies that they are actually associated with other planes…. Like they represent the fires of creation - mozhius, elemental pure fire - koltara and hellfire - her father? She has a bloodline of three of the most powerful flame cultivators there are. She’s totally cheating.

Tom C

The power of Carl’s unshakeable belief in boss Zac! TFTC

Andrew

Thank you!

sgt_turtle

No better way to kick off a break than a carl chapter! Didnt help i was reading dungeon crawler carl earlier and got really confused for a moment

SmokeJam

He is simply the Janitor of the Atwood Empire. Sometimes he has to put out the fires (literally), sometimes he has to burn everything down (literally). When you believe the job you are doing is necessary and worth doing, having simple but strong beliefs is easy. And he saw Zac and his chaos in action, slaying the Pope, unleashing the Eternal Guardians not to mention the whole war and journey. I think that might've played a role too :D In essence he will always be good at dealing with Dao Heart attacks. He is an honest und hard working man and cares about his family. He will go to the end of the multiverse to protect them, even if it means coat-tailing Chaos. Nothing else really matters to him.

EsoEasy

I was fully expecting today’s chapter to be even more cliffy than the last one. Pleasantly surprised to get reacquainted with my favorite superhero tag team instead. Well played, TFD. Enjoy the summer break.

Reno

Is Carl good at dealing with Heart attacks because he's always so conflicted about every situation he's in? Baldies: "You miss your home 🌀" Carl: "Yeah duh. This shit sucks but I'm doing it anyway."

DrSubterfuge

Huh more ammunition for the Empyrean Throne = Stellar Peak interpretation. "Empyrean Sun" is pretty hard to ignore. On the other hand, all the other Stellar theming of the attack can be linked to the very Stellar-themed Mohzius (whose three-legged crow bloodline is the jinwu, which is mythologically aligned with the Sun; and, you know, he's so sun-aligned that his chosen place of meditation is sitting on one). The thing is, Kolsara's bloodline is the Vermilion Bird, which is almost all fire theming. It is, however, also a constellation in the sky, but that's a pretty tenuous link to the Stellar Peak. One way or another, I think it's safe to assume that Kolsara's cultivation is very fire themed and that's why the peak of the Empyrean Throne is so very fiery.

Tyler S.

Hey, hes already got a nice empty city for them to populate. Lol

SandreX

I believe Zac is the contingency:d

Omiso

He serves his Emperor faithfully, following a plan even Zac know nothing about. The only problem is that Carl also knows little of it and has to scry buckets of bolts and any other clue he can get his hands on.

Omiso

Wow this is a bigger problem than I expected. If Zac truly wants to mend the Peak of Chaos he'll have to help the Empire or have his path be suborned to the Sangha. This Chapter also explains why Marai told Zac about Idiche. When the Eternal Servant of Ensolus told Zac to bring back any relics of the Empire during his travels I don't think she was talking about a bunch of Imperials seal bearers / scions from before the Dark Ages but if anyone can do it is Zac.

Craig

>“They’d prepared for our arrival. Our Dao Hearts were targeted the moment we stepped out of the Earthgate. I had to unleash my flames to assert my path,” Iz said, giving him an odd look. “You didn’t notice anything?” It was at this moment that Iz realized that Carl's Dao Heart is absolutely unshakeable.

M💬

If Carl has an Earthly dao we can kind of speculate all top officials in the trial already has one at this point. Or maybe just Vilari Joana and Emily, but maybe all early earthly daos.

M💬

The sangha have to be squashed.. their ploy is really sick for some so called benevolent cultivators. On the other hand, I hope they accomplish their goal partially, because it would be more satisfying when they and Zac eventually clash. It also makes me wonder if Arcaz will be fighting the monk, because to me the mercurial court might be a major crux for the empire resurrection; and most will say Kaltusa Lu would fight Arcaz, but I see him being an Iz opponent or an unwilling ally because he looses interest in Iz. All in all excellent chapter the cliff was not that insane but theories and speculation are about to got nuts.

Booksaregood

I’m to scared to read it rn, I’ll wait until the shakes hit(later tonight…)

Corac

With this being the break I guess it's a good time to catch up. I have been saving up like 75 chapters to read

Owen Kaz

His heart remains unshaken. His faith in the Boss unshakable!

Lex Luther S

Ohhh boy, what a chapter. Finally, wgot to see Carl and Iz and I must say, Carl the janitor has certainly come a long way. He can hold back a beast tide, even if he becomes a smoldering mess, and even broke through to an earthly Dao. Truly, Carl is the best; still though, no wonder the baldies have been playing the long game. If they can send someone like Laondio through the six paths, then that would complete their plan in no time. Thankfully Laondio isn't gonna follow their script and theyre currently being hindered by the flamebearer from the Eternal Storm as well as Thea. Welp, now we await August 15th. May time pass quickly.

Lizy Flore

Carl is such a delight to read. Thanks for this little surprise before the break, and have a good vacation ! 2nd : Carl powering through with his absolute belief in Zac’s bullshit will never cease to cackle me up. Carl’s insane insight is literally fighting off the baldies. Must I remind everyone than even Thea and Vilari struggle against them ? Last : why do I feel like those souls will go the Atwood Empire at the end ? Idk I feel like the Sangha are a bit shortsighted in this. The empire would have anticipated their plans and made contingencies, no ?

M💬

I saw Carl and had to comment…. Absolute bliss for our crazy janitor!!!

Ryan Pepp

End of an era!


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