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Chapter 1,333.

🕑 Added 2025-02-05 21:34:11 +0000 UTC

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Edgar Segura

Emily, Janos and Zac are creating Supremacies

Edgar Segura

Holy crap that's insane. Using fantasy/dreams/illusion/space/time to create a perfect world where the chamber exists from a perfect "illusion" and thus using the lanterns to create miniature worlds where time is past present and future all at once. Allowing the users/bearers to alter reality in a fake world then brining it out thru the bridges that are the lanterns. Or something along these lines

Craziedrakon

That’s cool tho cause the pov of Janus being forgotten by even the readers till its important follows the plot

Hms

Janus is that side character you forget exists until he randomly pops up in a random chapter. Its nice to get these different POV's, especially for the often-neglected characters who really can't take up too much of this ever expanding universes story.

Shane

@Omisa @Mathew Hay…… How do you guys remember these details? Do you guys have photographic memories 😂 I find myself reading the comments section more and more because its such refresh on linked story tidbits…. Kudos lads

Dro

I feel like each clan/sect/group has just one (or very few) "Young Masters" and they are normally the children or direct disciples of the leader. Many are called Young Master/Mistress even if they aren't (yet) the strongest. It just represents the one(s) the Sect Master gives extreme amounts of resources to groom for sect leadership in the future. Exceptionally talented folks like the Echelon could be Core Disciples who receive resources above that of Inner and Outer Disciples but Core Disciples wouldn't normally referred to as 'Young Master' unless they are (1) directly related to an Elder/sect-master, or (2) they are literally the #1 disciple in the sect (likely because they are related to the sect master in some way).

Tommy

Book 6 Chapter 19. They decided to pick Zac up when the shroud lifts. So we’ll see I guess

Greymantle

Omiso and Matthew: Thanks for providing the character's name! With that, I was able to find more complete info., and the chapter number (472), from the Wiki: https://defiance-of-the-fall.fandom.com/wiki/A’Feris

Matthew Hay

A'Feris is not a monarch, he's an Autarch, specifically called out as a Grand Deacon. The same rank as Alvod. He's waiting to see how Zac progresses before committing, but it should be a monarchy to autarchy plot thread. Also, another connection I don't think I've seen others mention - the old man that helped Zac learn how to fight at the start of the Orom. He gave Zac his token and told him to reach out to his friend if he ever made it out - that friend is the one who was talking to A'Feris about taking a disciple.

Jeff McCulley

Got it now?

Jeff McCulley

The main question I have about Zac running into Tavza is that she was pretty well crippled from her “deviation”—and I’m not sure how far she can get in this place on her own.

Jeff McCulley

The Notes on my iPhone has a folder labeled “Defier” that is very…busy.

Jeff McCulley

@Hartmann got it right. He’s the prime figure in this memory domain, nothing more. “Anson” is Janos.

Jeff McCulley

Thread wasn’t “dropped”, the guy decided to go collect Zac after the hundred years was up.

Timothy Dana

Any news on the next chapter release?

MacMahon Wenzl

Zacs going to come out of this with a whisper of the Limitless Emperors soul and no one will be able to touch Zacs faction.

Hartmann

Kadel is the perspective of the inhabitant of a memory domain Janos / Anson visits. He is the discoverer of the principles making the memory domains possible. In the past he accidentally blew up his academy.

Omiso

It wasn't entirely dropped, the Axeman that was "relaxing" by oiling his weapon is called A'Feris and he's stuck in a bottleneck his friend Io suggested taking a disciple (ZAC) after seeing the video of Zac making a xmas tree with the bodies of his enemies in the Tower of Eternity he was very interested in it but because Zac summoned a Steele of Conflict during his visit to the tower of Eternity the whole sector was quarantined for 100 years as any Steele is considered an omen of bad things to come (the war happened so go figured). This wasn't the end of the connections with the Radiant Temple. Zac was also given a token to participate into the recruitment trial of the Radiant Temple, by Ventus during the Twilight Arc, and he was given another token by Travo Raso during the Orom Arc. Another point of connection to the Radiant Temple is Alvod Jondir, the Eventide Asura, he and Zac have karma linking them both and follow a similar paths that will inevitable get them reunited again. But because all the other stuff Zac hasn't been able to pay attention to it. There is a chance this opportunity might fall into Emily the same way Zac's Axe Coliseum Token helped her find her way forward before.

Greymantle

Thanks! I don't recall the details, but how do you know he was a Monarch? Was that revealed as part of the scene? Also, do you recall what book that was?

zukerburg

No that thread was dropped I am assuming that guy was apart of some subsidiarity faction of the radiant temple and was prolly written to convey Zac making waves in the wider multiverse Zac also really doesn't need to be taught by some random early to middle stage monarch stuck in his cultivation

Greymantle

So completely unrelated to this chapter, but my memory was just jogged: A few (or several?) books ago, there was a scene where a guy was visiting his friend who was relaxing/fishing/retired (can't remember exactly). I got the impression they were both old and powerful, and probably from outside of Zecia. The visitor came to convince his friend to come out of retirement to train Zac (neither had met Zac, but he'd somehow come to the visitor's attention). The retiree didn't seem interested, but his friend thought he'd come around. Anyone recall that scene, and did anything ever come of it?

Greymantle

Ah, OK -- Kadel is a being that exists within one of the illusions Janos has created.

Mathew

likely the illusion demon janos

Greymantle

I forget--who's Kadel? Got no hits when checking the Wiki.

Lex Luther S

Well, it's been stated that zac claiming the first seal and being the fulcrum to ultom rising from the depths was zac basically throwing a giant mountain on the otherwise calm lake of fate and zac and ogras long theorized that by the time the trials all done and dusted, ancient factions territory lines will have been redrawn and with ultom appearing as the Zenith approaches, there's no doubt the entire board is going to be flipped up. This will be even more so when the 6th pillar descends as old man rivers, stated the 5th and 6th pillar were meant to appear closets to the Zenith and had something special about them compared to the other pillars.

Lex Luther S

For Tavza, I imagine the next time we see her is when human zac runs into her. We don't know what court she has but given she likely knew she had to head to the hollow court when the trial started, it's likely she somehow influenced her bubble to head in that general direction. Hell; I wouldn't be surprised if human zac swoops in to save her like a damsel in distress lol. Kinda excited since that's her first time "meeting" human zac, though I think she knows about his connected bodies after that dip into chaos she took. So far, human zac is about halfway to the hollow courts and I imagine that's where most of the flamebearers are at, though maybe a little bit ahead given he had to spend time fixing his core and healing up but with tavzas' injuries, she's likely around the same area as human zac.

Lex Luther S

It is janos. If I'm not mistaken, that was the name he had when he was trapped in that illusion.

The Lost Pages

Hmmm... I feel like Anson is actually Janos. This whole scenario feels exactly like how he got accepted into the Left Imperial Palace. Plus he has his own dreamers that he wants to make real. So the focus on helping Kadel step out of the dream is supremely fitting.

Palmer Evans

Do you have a spreadsheet to keep track of all this or did you just pull all that from memory lol?

Jeff McCulley

Oh yeah…I’d also expect a Tavza update before long.

Jeff McCulley

I feel like the “Young Master/Mistress” title is given to exceptionally talented young personages in the line of succession, or core members, not just disciples. Max would have some work to do, while the entire Echelon class would probably count. Not to mention Kenzie.

Jeff McCulley

I did a quick glance at the remaining Courts. With these two POV chapters, we have two Courts’ actual Atwood sealbearers as yet to be seen. One is the Farsee Court, with Ibtep and Jaol. Of course, Carl is pinch hitting, with Iz Tayn as backup. Sure, Carl can do the job—but who wouldn’t want to see Ibtep giving his unique take on the task? Come to think of it, when Zac was talking to Joanna about how people were chosen for each Court, he mentioned that their “fit” seemed to be important. And Ibtep and Jaol were natural explorers. Well, Carl is now exploring the bounds of madness and belief in Zac, isn’t he? That’s changed since he first got his seal. Of course, the Radiant Court also has a lot to do with suns, as we just saw from Emily’s chapter…and Carl is sitting on one right now. The Daedalian Court is where I might (or might not) expect to see pop up Friday, with a Galau or Catheya POV. Assuming, of course, that Catheya didn’t head for the Hollow Court instead. Considering the mess at the Daedalian Court with the Sangha, I wouldn’t be totally surprised if TFD held off on that one. That also happens to be Ventus’ own Court. We also haven’t seen Ra’Klid (Starfall), Bubbur (Tethered), Kruta (Indomitable) and Lissa (Hollow Court). The first two of those have some seemingly major makeup work to do with their fellows currently sidelined, and them going it alone would make for an interesting POV. Especially Bubbur, after his Atwood lessons from Carl. How well did those take? Is Bubbur a janitorial apprentice?

Tom C

TFTC!

Dro

Yeah so Emily's the Young Mistress/eldest disciple and that Max kid would be the Young Master/secondary disciple if he ever shows up again. Though I guess all of Zac's kids (Vilari, etc) could also be seen as his disciples

Borbino the great

Especially with how weird his powers are I feel like a lot of elites wouldn’t have a real way to counter especially if he combines time with his understanding of illusion I wonder what his inner world would look like

Borbino the great

Zac is 100% going to lead the second coming of the limitless empire but I think till then it’s going to be a balancing act between the monks the undead and the tayns being the ones who play balancing act to keep both sides from over reaching I think it’s inevitable for Zac to continue finding balance between life death with potentially the tayns or a different third party representing conflict

Chewbacchus

Edit needed here too: 'He’d never seen pure Imperial Faith once before' Has he seen it once or never?

Siethrobo

Considering the fragile nature of reality from Kadel's perspective the name changes may be intentional

Jeff McCulley

What Old Man Tim can’t see won’t hurt him.

Jeff McCulley

Young Mistress.

Orims

AHH but you can't block something that is already there😏. Honestly these supremacies believing that they managed to off Limitless are kinda sad. At the height of the empire they had enough power to litteraly change how the whole reality works (with the system) and somehow this bare handful of beings believes they won? To be fair I don't think that we will see Lanondio yet, but not because he CAN'T resurect but because it's not yet the time as the Dao is still healing. I imagine the plan would be to come back after like two more pillars rise just before the decline of the eara starts.

DagNabItAll

I've always argued it will flip the table, otherwise I didn't see how Zac would remain an independent actor afterwards, which is a core part of the series. It more and more seems like we will see a super powered system, or limitless empire round 2, which will change the whole universe.

Dro

The Young Master of the Atwood clan making our guy Zac proud - just throwing money at problems to make up for any issues. Who else but her could casually throw out a D-Grade ship just to block an attack. For context - that's almost 2000 years of Catheya's annual salary (10 D-Grade coins/year) just to block a single attack. Even given Catheya's high background in the Undead Empire.

Edgar Segura

There's a temporal block preventing the old monster from the future

Dro

We could kinda see that back when it showed the Old Monsters of today's era watch the 5th pillar rise. Ultom itself was literally an unmovable island right in the middle of the ever-flowing River of Time.

Tartlet

Ooooh shit, Kadel is looking to piss off Old Man Tim

Jeff McCulley

That just meant that *someone* needed to light each candle, not that Zac needed to have them all be *his* people.

Christian Brock

That was clear from the beginning with the need to light each candle.

Palmer Evans

The Ultom arc seems more and more like it might have by far the largest climax of the series so far. The implications to the rest of the universe will be massive with Zac at the forefront. Will the Atwood empire come out of this able to defend itself from Supremacies via more beings like Rava? I just don’t see how they don’t get picked clean unless the Tayns step in to help or the Primo owes Zac. Zac will prob be the strongest Peak Hedgemon in existence but that’s not enough unless this trial provides means to keep the old vultures away from the Eternal Heritage

Jeff McCulley

Ch. 1,333 Suggested Edits “alive with” >alive, with “were maimed by the” >heavily injured “already miles away” >Can’t be “miles” “while Cosmos” >while the Cosmos “waving his hand” >its “found her mettle” >courage OR voice You have mettle, you don’t “find” it. “have faltered if” >failed It was already faltering “the anger seemed” >angel flames poured into her left hand. >Emily’s left hand “her” works if the angel weren’t female “heterodoxy” >contamination “stumbled into the gap” >onto? “citing antiquated rules” >obsolescent “the scholar's horrifying” >scholars’ “countless of” >countless copies of “his tricks worked” >methods Just used “tricks” “Ansil slowly asked” >Anson “desk mate” >deskmate “Kadel knew it wouldn’t work” >the elder’s effort wouldn’t succeed *about to use “wouldn’t work” again in original context “Ansel answered after” >Anson

DrSubterfuge

Like a bridge connecting two times in a shared dream. And Janos just put stepping out of the dream on the table.

Joshua Little

Thanks for the chapter.

Omiso

For real Emily's action created new freshly made memory lanterns that means more opportunities to gather Imperial Faith. What would've happened to the Joyous Gardens if Zac hadn't left in a hurry. Even the Sealbearers that aren't top notch like Carl's Wife and Ibteb can just hit the lanterns while the elites go for the Courts all feeding the same trial. And Janos saving Kadel's life what would that bring?

Lex Luther S

Well well well. Emily succeeded and Janos is showing us why he's a GOAT. Truly can't wait to see where everyone's paths to the peak take them.

Jeff McCulley

I am starting to understand that Zac doesn’t just need sealbearers for his Cycle—that’s just the first stage. He needs them to do something significant at each Court as well. Trying to calculate who we see Friday. I think Janis did his illusory wish and is done for the moment. Unless, of course, it’s time for him to bump into D-Zac and Esmerelda?

Michael

Well Janos might have just given the Limitless Empire exactly what they need to come back from these memory domains. If this researcher can “wake up” what’s stopping Laondio?

MacMahon Wenzl

Janos is a real sleeper agent. He doesn't seem that powerful, but he really is up there with all the other elites of the Atwood Empire.

M💬

Janos being a seal bearer mean he has the potential to reach the peak of cultivation, not only him but all the seal bearers of the Atwood empire , but does this mean Character like Ilvere will be left in the dust? I will prefer if the someone like Ilvere becomes a peak Monarch ….. awesome chapter Also, in the future I hope Max gets as much love as Emily it’s nice to see her progress

Jeff McCulley

Thank goodness it’s not Friday, right? Still, guessing we don’t continue with Janos then.

Jeff McCulley

…and he’s likely looking for a way to bring his wife out.

Jeff McCulley

That’s exactly what I was thinking, the smith. Well…and what might Rava make of the Enkindlung Sage and his Dao Guardian?

Owen Stevens

wow. So it's been confirmed the left imperial palace is notgoing back in time. it's omnipresent.

Hartmann

He is looking for a way that his "wife" from the dream world he encountered in the Ensolus Ruins can use to leave the dream and become "real".

Jeff McCulley

He’s looking for a way to get his wife out of HER dream world. Er, among other things.

Jeff McCulley

Annnd here’s Janos!

Tyler S.

Good for Emily, and is Janos trying to find a way for him to really travel into the true time or is he looking for a way to take a LIP agent into his dream world to make it stable and stronger

Hartmann

Anson was Janos identity in the dream world he encountered in the Ensolus Ruins.

Andrew

Thank you!

Alexander Dupree

Ooooohhhh this is gonna be fun. We have a possible way to copy the entire Empire into the future it seems?

CloudyBall

Wow man, these past few months we have been getting banger after banger of a chapter and this one was no different. Keep up the good work! I will read this novel to the end no matter what

slicktracy

Good call

Lizy Flore

Janos. Dao of Fantasy, dreams, illusions. He’s the only one who fits.

Lizy Flore

Okay that was so cool. I understand now why memory characters were given pov. I really want some of them to become "real". Maybe not Leandio or Karz. But… the smith that helped Zac with Verun ? That would be real nice.

Jason Hatter

Hmm. Who is Anson?

Craig

Well the second part sure was a foreboding teaser

Gaige Bradley

First 😏


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