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Update on Drawing for the Bat cage!!

🕑 Added 2019-09-27 19:00:16 +0000 UTC

Comments

Soso Saad

HOW?

Charlee Myers

California, the mommy state...

Ms.K & the KOOL Kids

the cost of mailing that cage internationally would be ... staggering.

Sundeep Budwal

I agree, a different idea for drawing would be amazing so that international fans can be incorporated too. Here in the UK 6.30pm PST works out 1.30am GMT. Lots of love x

Kaitlyn Hoitomt

I almost wonder if there is another way this could be done, that way its more fair for international people and for the different donation tiers. like, could you ask the question and then do the drawing? or you do a contest of some kind and we all put in our entries? I don't know, but as always love the work and its definitely helping to inspire me to do more creative things

Sarah

My internet is much too slow to win. 😢 LOL

Martha Colhoun

And this is why, "First We Kill All The Lawyers". Then presumably, feed them to the bats.

Rebecca Mitchell

I think the majority of us who are participating in patreon are doing so because we love your creativity and the inspiration you instill in everyone. The giveaways are definitely a bonus but not an expectation. I’ll assume most are just happy we can help make it possible for you to make beautiful things for the world to see. That’s why we joined in the first place. Thank you for your fantastic mind and big heart!

Carmen Garsia

I absolutely adore this project. It look perfect for my new house. I'm ready for tomorrow

Melinda Collins

The last livestream was sort of laggy so I hope I can answer quickly enough!🤞🦇Also, Congrats on getting more patrons..I keep checking back and the number keeps growing... Keep up the AMAZING work.🖤

Claire Gill

darn it, that's when I sleep. but watching your videos on the night shift it perfect.

Zoeayn Pollard

Darn it!!! I think that's like 9.30am on Tuesday in Australia and I will be at work :( Still I don't want you to get in trouble. Absolutely love your work :) xx

Julia

I want Universal Studios to let you create a maze!

Melanie Dunn

Oh no it will be 3:30am for me here in Italy! I may have to stay up just for this though! Lovely work, you are such a creative inspiration to me!!

Kara Andretta

Once November rolls around we’ll “fall back” to standard time.

Kara Andretta

Currently it’s Daylight Savings Time in the US.

Sage Nash

How silly! Thank you for thinking up a way to do it anyhow. So excited for the livestream! The last one was super fun

Maggie Fry

I would love to win your bat cage, but I am just happy to have your inspiration. I love the way your mind works!

Lauren Downard

So gutted, this is 2.30am here, really wish you could have done a draw instead x

Andrea Davis

Hi Christine~ Have you looked into KingSumo? I use that for my giveaways. I'm in CA too. I'm currently running a Halloween one for my business.

Cass

I'm a big fan of yours and while this may be on such short notice, I'm happy to check out your stream - The trivia is simply a bonus! :) I support another creator on Patreon and he does raffles using gleam.io and it's separate from Patreon. I'm not sure how that would impact California laws but it might help. I'm so excited for your October content, you are an absolute inspiration!! <3

Kirsten Perez

My only concern- beside making sure you dont get into legal trouble- is making sure all of your patrons have the opportunity to participate in the give away. Not everyone can do livestream at a particular time. So perhaps moving forward exploring different all inclusive options for drawings might be possible?

Amanda Taylor

Or ask everyone to do something to be entered rather than spend something (becoming a patron).

Amanda Taylor

I think if you choose to randomly pick someone to receive it out of all of your YouTube viewer that would be ok.

Meredith Kiyomura

Christine! Such a bummer but I think it’s great that you are open to making it work. I like John Howell’s suggestion. You could open a quiz or contest a day or two before to Patreon users and all those who take the quiz would qualify. I looked around online for contest builder apps and found a web article about some available: https://.practicalecommerce.com/11-Platforms-for-Social-Media-Contests

Stardust

Will you let us know where we need to submit our answers? Thanks Christine!

John Howell

Have you ever watched Critical Role? They do a giveaway most episodes and must use a Twitch app. You mist enter the given word in the love chat and it randomly picks the winner. Enter it more than once and you’re disqualified.

Christian Haunton

What a shame. I just joined yesterday because I was so excited by the possibility of winning the cage, and I’m afraid now I’m out of the running. Oh well, I’m glad you caught this before you got into any legal troubles!

Niko Ketsilis

Maybe someone who is in a state where a draw would be legal could pull the name? Would that count? Haha

Niko Ketsilis

Could we all answer a math question each month to make the draw legal? Or we could all swear a blood oath to never report there has been a draw for Patrons taking place hahaha 🤣

Kathryn

*thinking cap donned*

Alicia Harrington

Darn. I'll be at work here in Australia 😣 D'oh! One thought is, what about a quiz through here? Like you send out a link to everyone and anyone who enters that goes into a draw? Though maybe that still could have legal problems Hopefully there's some work around in the future as I'd die for your creations 😅 👻

Saphire

Can't wait!! I love everything you create

Christine McConnell

SAME HERE! This was just the simplest fix I could come up with quickly for this month... I'm thinking I'd like to figure out a better way. In the meantime, if there's any suggestions, I would love some more options :))

Kathryn

I hope we can find another way...I suck at trivia...and typing fast

Bree

These are all in the context of their legal terms and when using the term raffle, it constitutes as almost a lottery (which legally there is a difference) which is different from a "sweepstakes". For instance in my state, a person must obtain a License to run both a raffle or lottery. Now if the people you buy raffle tickets from do it legally or not, I do not know. But in all 50 states raffles, lotteries,sweepstakes, and contests have some amount of regulation and rules determining what their definition is in that state. Hope this helps with your frustration in the turn of events happening. I am pretty frustrated too. This is a bummer

Sydney Alexander Muck

I feel like a pay to enter raffles constantly.... so are all the fairs doing illegal business?

a.Lynn

thats unfortunate- I will luckily be able to attend the livestream but I don’t think my chances got any better if there’s a quick-draw quiz for it. Hopefully Christine’ll find a better method to give away future projects as this one is last minute do to....the law

Jess

This sucks.👎

Bree

In the USA, it is illegal to charge someone to enter a "Sweepstakes" (a random, NON-SKILL based, chance for a prize) Because we as patrons give Christine money to make the art that we love, that could be construed as us "Paying to enter" a sweepstakes. No money is allowed to change hands for a sweepstakes in America. Now in a "Contest" money can change hands, but by definition that is a SKILL based, chance to win something. (contests have judges). So to stay in line with the laws and not pay a large fine, she has to somehow make this a skill based chance to win.

Bree

Would Christine still be able to pick names from a hat, but with the caveat they answer a trivia question. That way it's still a game of "skill" (contest) but it randomizes from all the patrons. I am able to watch the live streams so I am happy either way, but i feel for the patrons who are across the pond or who have to work at night.

Sara Estridge

Geez why do legalities have to get in the way of a woman’s right to live her spooky life! 🦇 🦇 🦇

Heidi Schaffer

Such a bummer... I have to work Monday evening. 😕

Kasey reed

I'm calling off Monday to attend this livestream, I missed the last. Love you Christine🖤💀

Cariushka

How is this more fair when loads of us can’t attend due to class or work or time zone? I don’t understand how a drawing that included everyone can have issues? Love your work and being part of this but there’s got to be a better way??

Chloe Batey

I’ll be at work and won’t be able to watch, but I’ll watch the livestream when I’m done! Shame though, I have a perfect place for the bat! Haha good luck guys 💕

Paula Osborne

Ok great.

Branwen Frost

When you said you were going to draw it, I thought you meant sketch! I was all set to win hand drawn 2D replica. And I thought that was already amazing.

Seiaeka

Yea, gonna miss it. Weird though, some other channels I follow do a regular patreon draw to send some of their craftables out. I'm just curious what legal issue it would be...

Savage

so right now its just supposed to be Pacific Time right? so the current time in CA would be 1:22 pm?

Sarah Hunter

It is because of the time changes for daylight savings time. For example I am in Mountain Time so we have half the year in MST (Mountain Standard Time) and the other half in MDT (Mountain Daylight Time). It is complicated.

Christine McConnell

YES! Anyone can win and I will ship anywhere regardless of cost :))

Heather Anderson

It will work out to be 130pm New Zealand time so not all countries outside of the US will be disadvantaged 😊

Savage

She mentioned in one of the earlier posts that she will ship anywhere in the world.

Savage

FYI: I am in Central time and when I went to double check how far ahead "PST" was I was informed on the website I was using that "Pacific Standard Time is not currently observed see Pacific time" PST was actually one hour earlier than Pacific Time... so now I'm confused (I'm terrible with timezones anyway) but yall should be aware and double check your start times.

Paula Osborne

Is it just people in America who can win it? Cos I live in England, shipping will be alot 🦇

Paula Osborne

Is it just people in America? Cos I live in England.

Sherry Thomas

I'm just excited it will be my first livestream 😁

Jade Hill

Thanks Christine. You really are considerate

Sarah Bear

😢 I'm going to miss it!

Carla Perea Seminaro

Congratulations to the winner of this gorgeous prop!

Amy

Oo I’ll try stay up!! I usually can’t sleep haha, thank you for the reply!! X

Christine McConnell

I'm wondering if there's something different I can do specifically for those in the UK... I'm going to think on this!

banglada

:( I have class then.

Christine McConnell

Personally, a drawing is 1,000 times better in my opinion. I have no idea why it's an issue, but I still want to give away my work and am trying to figure out the best way to do that. Hope you'll stick with me till I have a better option :))

Christine McConnell

It's 2:30 AM UK time :( I'm trying to figure out a better way to do this in the future, so everyone has a chance :))

Jennifer Kerrigan

I can’t think of anything but hopefully there’s a work around for us UK types :)

Loren

Boo, I'll be at work. Lucky people who get to attend.

Brian Blanton

You’re heart is in the right place Christine, good luck fellow patrons! 🤞

Christine McConnell

Shoot, I hate that... This is the time I will do this one, but in the future, is there a better option I'm not considering? I'm 100% open to alternative routes to make this fair for everyone.

Amy

What time is that for the UK? :)

Kristin Ott

Oh, I will be in bed by then for sure, but I will try my best to stay awake for your live stream. Regardless, so many congratulations to whomever will win this! It's truly a magnificent prize to win! That cage alone is extraordinary!

Jade Hill

That really puts those outside of the US at a disadvantage. The live streams are at like 3am here

Rachel Castorena

Bummer!!! I have school on Monday and can’t watch. I never get lucky anyways so I probably wouldn’t have won, but you make amazing thing Christine and someone sure is lucky!

Galen Blanton

Good thing you caught that!

Kendra

Hopefully my boss won't mind me trying to log into the livestream at work. Central Time Zone...so I'll still be at work unfortunately. *crossing my fingers!*